CCTV System

**AmithS** · 28-Dec-10, 08:42 PM

Hi All,

Anyone has any taughts or ideas to share on a CCTV system for a fast food store?

I see Makro has DIY Vivanco systems?

**SilverNodashi** · 29-Dec-10, 11:24 AM

How many camera's do you want to put up, and what type - i.e. IP based camera's or normal COAX based ones? And for how long do u need the footage?

**AmithS** · 29-Dec-10, 07:52 PM

I am looking at min 8 cams, max 16 cams. COAX based most probably with footage of between 4-6 weeks ? Does this make any sense at all?

**murdock** · 04-Jun-12, 09:00 PM

been doing some research into cameras and setups...with my limited knowledge...what i can share...is that it is all about planning...the better you plan the better the outcome.

what i mean by this...

there are specific applications for each camera...you need to know what you expect of the camera...do you just want to see something happening or do you want to identify people...numbers plates...etc...while recording...will it be recording during the day and if at night will will it be in well lit areas...the distance from the camera to the location...etc etc.

yip you can set the camera to record in specific pixels...ie...if you have a computer on a table in a room and dont want to sit watching hours of recording you only want to see if anyone touches or uses the copmputer...you can set it up to record only if there is movement in those blocks on the screen.

i have cameras setup at home which i am using to experiment...using a dvr...and found that you cannot setup motion recording out doors there are just too many variables...and lots of bugs which seem to love the red lights.

if you want cameras for a specific application...makes sure you plan and spend the money on the correct setup...otherwise dont waste your time or money...make sure you get someone who knows what they are doing as in all industries there are lots of so called specialists...one of my customers learnt the hard way...so now i am busy trying to clean up the mess...at least one good thing has come of it... cameras setup in the lounge...and a screen behind a secure passage door...would work great if we have an intruder...you could line make up the intruder and plug them without them even knowing you can see them...and if there is more than one you would be able to see where they are and how many there...just dont shoot them thru the door otherwise i do beleive it would be classified as planned...wouldnt look good in court.

**IMHO** · 04-Jun-12, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by murdock

just dont shoot them thru the door otherwise i do beleive it would be classified as planned...wouldnt look good in court.

Jip, criminals got the law on their side. So I see them running up to the house. One hide in the garden, another around the corner and one ring the front door bell. All three has guns, but the one at the front door hold his behind his back. Now I observe all this on the cameras. The other two disappeared and is out of view. Behind the house and can break an entry anywhere. I phone the police. The one at the door gets agitated and start breaking a window to gain entrance, or even trying to kick the door in. I am not allowed to shoot, because it will be interpreted as planned? I must wait till he is in the house and then determine what his intention is? Maybe he just want money and a TV, or a glass of water? You can not give someone the death penalty for that! These guys is professionals. Your life is never in danger, as long as you give them what they want. You can always claim from your medical aid later, get antiviral pills for the wife or daughter, replace the TV, work for some more money, get to see a psychiatrist... And do not forget! You will have footage to entertain your family and friends with! Because it will be useless as evidence. I experienced that. Got them on tape, breaking into my sons bakkie and take his R12000 laptop he forgot in the bakkie. The answer is simple. There is millions of them. Where must they be found? And they all look alike...

**AndyD** · 29-Dec-10, 11:22 PM

Makes sense. you're going to need some large hard drives for that amount of cameras and footage for 6 weeks if you go for a pc based system.

**AmithS** · 31-Dec-10, 08:37 AM

I hear they have systems that only record when you have movement or you can set them to record during certain times only to save space ?

Which is better a PC based system or a stand alone DVR ?

**Quini** · 20-Apr-12, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Singhms

Hi All,

Anyone has any taughts or ideas to share on a CCTV system for a fast food store?

I see Makro has DIY Vivanco systems?

I dont intend on advertising, but the systems you are refering to can be done in PC or Embedded based... Here is a bit of advice though... Forget about the units sold at macro and builders and so forth, there is no support, quality is matched by price and you arnt going to ge anywhere near 6 weeks of recording as those units work on 250GB IDE drives, IDE is not available on the market anymore and the recording compression is not great...

You need a specialised system that you know you have backup and suppotr on and atleast 1 - 1.5 TB worth of storage space.