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    I was hoping that someone would bring in trade dynamics and basic tax association protocols. Yes I do understand that there was a stage in our evolution that we needed a trade system. However I was hoping that we are evolving from this stage to the next. See the concept I am trying to establish is based on intellect being the foundation and economy will be replaced with progress.

    This will start with living standards being equal. The reason we want more is not based on a human driven thought. See we are conditioned so that we want, or to must have. This is not human nature it is commercialization. See if we can get people to accept that the basics is good enough then we can focus not on making money and earning salaries but rather we can focus on progress.

    Progress and technology is the extension of the human mind. Right now we are limited because we still think that we need money where today we don’t need money we need working solutions to sustain human life indefinitely.

    Now at this moment you say that a person that is earning R6000 per month is paying less tax then a Person that makes R60000 a month. How sure are you about this statement? See the bulk tax deduction from the pay will be massively deferent however we still pay the same amount of tax on our food, water, and services thus the living cost for the person that only gets R6000 is technically more because she or he has less to start with. So What I am saying is that the tax we pay on everything else is the same no matter if you are rich or poor.

    Now you may continue in saying that we need to pay our police, hospitals, roads, water and sanitation. I argue if the police where adequate I don’t need an alarm system. If the state hospitals where safe I will not need a medical aid. If water and sanitation was actively controlled and taken care off we will not need water purification systems in almost every home.

    So what I am saying is that we need more active solutions that by design is sustainable and not economically cost effective. Thus my statement remains we are working with a medieval mindset thus progress and human sustainability cannot be met... The principal of the system is self defeating.

    So what I am saying is we have the capacity to generate almost anything in excess why then do we need money if we can probably take care of all humans by simply working as one. This is possible and in remote areas of the world communities did so without any outsider help. But then the outsider wanted to intervene and introduced scarcity and greed. Thus there way of life was disrupted and we see another sweatshop producing cheap goods.

    I just sometimes feel I am not smart enough to explain this properly... But I can promise you once you start to Google rescore economies you might see a deferent picture. Not a perfect picture but a better suggestion to sustain life.

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    I also wish to point out the following Yes it is said that nothing in life is free. This is not the truth. This is not the truth at all. Living is free it always was free. We grew food from the land and made clothing with plants we are so intelligent and so passionate about the simple joys of life that control measures had to be created. Measures that involves government and religion. Fact is we became more aware and found that conflict facilitate death and profit. Religious background is almost always war with but a few acceptations to the rule. Face it life was free once! Historians proved this with years of research. Today we have the technology to sustain that freedom. With present technology fully utilized you will never see hunger and pain again. And we can sustain life indefinitely and grow intellectually. Intellect is after all the greatest gift we ever received.

    Scarcity is the product of a primitive trade systems. Until we realize this progress will always be painful and slow.

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    My favourite subject.....There has to be a better way to do life.

    Some thoughts that I reckon are pointing in the right direction come from Jacque Fresco.....

    'What's in it for me', is the way people think. And so if a man makes money selling a certain product, naturally he is going to fight the existence of another product that may threaten his institution. Therefore people cannot be fair and people do not trust each other. A guy will come over to you and say, "I've got just the house you're looking for".
    He's a salesman. When a doctor says 'I think your kidney has to come out', I don't know if he's trying to pay off a yacht, or that my kidney has to come out- it's hard in monetary system to trust people.
    If you came into my store and I said this lamp that I've got is pretty good, but the lamp in the next store is much better, I wouldn't be in business very long. It wouldn't work… If I were ethical, it wouldn't work. So, when you say industry cares for people… thats not true. They can't afford to be ethical. So your system is not designed to serve the well being of people… if you still don't understand that, there would be no outsourcing of jobs… if they cared about people. Industry does not care. They only hire people because it hasn't been automated yet. So, don't talk about decency and ethics… we cannot afford it and remain in business.

    It is important to point out, that regardless of the social system, whether fascist, socialist, capitalist or communist, the underlying mechanism is still money, labour and competition.
    Communist China is no less capitalistic than the United States. The only difference is the degree by which the state intervenes in enterprise.
    The reality is that "monetary-ism", so to speak, is the true mechanism that guides the interests of all the countries on the planet.

    The most aggressive and hence dominant variation of this monetary-ism is the free enterprise system. The fundamental perspective, as put forth by early free market economists, like Adam smith, is that self-interest and competition leads to social prosperity, as the act of competition creates incentive, which motivates people to persevere.

    However, what isn't talked about is how a competition-based economy invariably leads to strategic corruption, power and wealth consolidation, social stratification, technological paralyses, labour abuse, and ultimately a covert form of government dictatorship by the rich elite.
    The word corruption is often defined as moral perversion.
    " So you see, you have built in corruption. We are all chiseling off each other, and you can't expect decency in that sort of thing.

    And feeling that, they don't know who to elect. They think in terms of a democracy, which is not possible in a monetary based economy.
    If you have more money to advertise your position… the position you desire in government, that isn't a democracy. It serves those in positions of differential advantage… so it is always a dictatorship of the elitists- the financially wealthy.

    "WE CAN EITHER HAVE DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY OR WE CAN HAVE GREAT WEALTH CONCENTRATED IN THE HANDS OF A FEW, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH" - Louis Brandeis, supreme court justice
    "It's not politicians that can solve problems. They have no technical capabilities. They don't know how to solve problems. Even if they were sincere, they don't know how to solve problems. It's the technicians that produce the desalinisation plants. It's the technicians that give you electricity…that give you motor vehicles, that heat your house… and cool it in the summertime. It's technology that solves problems, not politics. Politics cannot solve problems, because they are not trained to do so.

    Very few people today stop and consider what it is that actually improves their lives. Is it money? Obviously not… One cannot eat money or stuff money into their car to get it to run… is it politics? - All politicians can do is create laws, establish budgets and declare war. Is it religion? Of course not…. Religion creates nothing except intangible emotional solace for those who require it.

    The true gift that we have as human beings have, which has been solely responsible for everything that has improved our lives... is technology.
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    YES!! YES!! See When I first saw this interview I thought “This is crap!” Then I watched it over and over and over and over again. The more I watched it the more I realized that he was onto something. So I started to do my own research and behold it is all there! It really is And the reason why I am promoting this is because I feel South Africa have the ability to become the first! The first truly free nation... Think about it... No more you cannot live because there is no work. No more you cannot get a higher education because there is no money! Imagine what I see... true freedom A real life connected to both technology and nature... This is not an ideal this is possible this is real. Need I to point out that once we build the most advanced attack helicopters that the world has ever seen! We can do this with our eyes close if we wanted too... But hay! Hay this is just a story right.

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