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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    @ Dylboy

    I have never had a problem obtaining CitiQ electrical prepaid meters. It is a Landis & Ger meter programmed for CitiQ. We install 100's of them.

    There has recently been a disruption with the supply of prepaid water meters but that has nothing to do with any courtcase as far as I'm aware.
    There is a shortage of a certain part which makes up the assembly and this has only been a problem post the burning of factories in Natal last year, but they are still available. Bought 4 from ARB earlier in the week.

    Peace out .. Derek Stuart
    Ah intresting ! Maybe it was then some internal dispute with Voltex local branch and them... I tried to get from both Liteglos near me and both didn't have so went with this recharger one.

    Installed a few CitiQ so was bleak could not get them but sounds like a supply issue so should be good for next one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    Just a quick tip for those who don't know a quick way to check if a prepaid meter has been bypassed or semi bypassed.

    Turn on a light in close proximity to the meter.

    Punch the following code into the meter 0000 0000 0001 5099 7584

    The contactor in the meter will now disconnect the supply.

    It will reconnect automatically after a few seconds.

    If the light went off, you're good. If not, there's monkey business.

    This code is universal and works on any prepaid meter.

    NOTE

    If this code is used on the new Hexing smart meter that has a separate keypad unit, the meter will not switch back on automatically.
    The code has to be entered again in order to switch the meter on.
    Be sure that the batteries in the remote unit are good otherwise you gonna sit without power.

    Peace out .. Derek Stuart.
    That is very cool thank you! Had a client whose tenant bypasses it just 3 months ago, had to open it up to see the jump wires which was a hack so that code is helpful thank you !

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    I am looking for a smart meter which can be connected to a 60 amp supply (preferably with a CT) and use an amp to monitor the useage.

    It seems we have a dispute with regards to a building which might have other things connected to the prepaid which shouldnt be.

    Also just for when I want to carry out load profiles for people.
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    So with these prepaid meters... can you choose your own price per kwh that the tenant pays?

    I was reading the box of the recharger one and it spoke of a tarrif and setting something but didn't finish and client kept the box...

    If so that is quite something as a thread above I agree with that you can't set any price as you not a provider... but keen to find out more on this topic.

    If it is possible to set your price then man you can royally screw your tenant over and above the % the meter company makes haha

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    @Dylboy.

    Cannot speak for all the companies administering sub meters,but only for CitiQ.

    The answer is no. Upon registering the meter, it is coupled to the Municipal tariff of the area in which it is registered. CitiQ will also only register the meter after it has been installed.

    They also do an ERF check to make sure that the person on whose name the meter is being registered is the legal owner of the property.

    Peace out .. Derek Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    @Dylboy.

    Cannot speak for all the companies administering sub meters,but only for CitiQ.

    The answer is no. Upon registering the meter, it is coupled to the Municipal tariff of the area in which it is registered. CitiQ will also only register the meter after it has been installed.

    They also do an ERF check to make sure that the person on whose name the meter is being registered is the legal owner of the property.

    Peace out .. Derek Stuart
    Ahhh ok that is good. Thank you.
    Makes sense to do it in its regeistred area and off the tariff.

    Will try get hold of the recharger one and see what that is about.

    Thank you !

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    With domestic ... You cant negotiate the tariff ... the tariffs are standard for the application ... IE ... domestic ... business and general ... time of use etc ... what you can negotiate is the administration fee ... some might charge 5 % and other 15 % ... and even that I couldnt get a straight answer from the prepaid company ... but then you could be living in a complex which buys buy electricity.

    Sometimes even the tariff ... for example if you are in a big industrial complex ... the property management group could have the entire roof covered in solar panels and they could be getting a better tariff due to bulk buying ... from the supplier.

    You need to make sure you understand what you are getting yourself into prior to signing a rental agreement. There are metering companies which specialise in this kind of stuff ... once again they will want their slice of the pie ... everyone wants a piece of the cake.
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    One more thing regarding the administration charges. Remember I'm only speaking CitiQ.

    The administrative charges can either be included at the POS in which they are paid for by the tenant.

    However

    There is also the option of the landlord paying the administrative charges. I know of many who do. They consider the administration charges a small price to pay for the convenience offered by the system. Should they choose this option then these charges are deducted from their rebate each month.

    Peace out .. Derek Stuart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derlyn View Post
    One more thing regarding the administration charges. Remember I'm only speaking CitiQ.

    The administrative charges can either be included at the POS in which they are paid for by the tenant.

    However

    There is also the option of the landlord paying the administrative charges. I know of many who do. They consider the administration charges a small price to pay for the convenience offered by the system. Should they choose this option then these charges are deducted from their rebate each month.

    Peace out .. Derek Stuart.
    I think it is more about not ending up with a massive outstanding bill for electricity when the tenant ducks.

    I am surprised someone hasnt come up with a pre paid meter and an app which can be controlled by the landlord to cut out the middle man.
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    Sometime I wonder if the pre paid meter people dont have contacts at the council to stall pre paid installations ... I am told there is a 1 year waiting list for council pre paid meters ... yet you can get a private pre paid in 48 hours ... sounds a bit dodgy to me.

    In fact after this last super efficient fast service from the council I am going to attempt to get a pre paid installed on one of my customer sites and see how long it takes.
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