Electrical nightmares

[ians]

Interesting to see how ECA and Carte Blanche make a fool out of the person...and dont get the facts right themselves

For example i sometimes install as many as 4-5 even 6 breakers in a DB... just for the kitchen plugs... to prevent overloaded....making a statement that there are too many circuit breakers in the DB ...mmm.

Picking up an insulation resistance tester and telling everyone it is a multi meter ...well need i say more.

I am not saying the fella is right (prices are over the top) ... but at least get your facts right before going nation wide with a film.

He has a a point about the doctors who rip a hole in your backside so big ...he needs a medical aid to hide his blatant theft... i dont see any carte blanche movies about how the medical profession is ripping the public off ?

I go for a scan... i am told if i have medical aid ...they will rob my savings of R2900 ...but if i pay cash ...i only have to pay R1200.

Lets no even talk about anesthetist.

[adrianh]

Interesting to see how ECA and Carte Blanche make a fool out of the person...and dont get the facts right themselves

For example i sometimes install as many as 4-5 even 6 breakers in a DB... just for the kitchen plugs... to prevent overloaded....making a statement that there are too many circuit breakers in the DB ...mmm.

Picking up an insulation resistance tester and telling everyone it is a multi meter ...well need i say more.

I am not saying the fella is right (prices are over the top) ... but at least get your facts right before going nation wide with a film.

He has a a point about the doctors who rip a hole in your backside so big ...he needs a medical aid to hide his blatant theft... i dont see any carte blanche movies about how the medical profession is ripping the public off ?

I go for a scan... i am told if i have medical aid ...they will rob my savings of R2900 ...but if i pay cash ...i only have to pay R1200.

Lets no even talk about anesthetist.

My GP says that Discovery is unethical - He hates Discovery as much as I do. I don't care for movie tickets - I want low medical costs!

[Dave A]

For those who aren't regular watchers of Carte Blanche (like me) and need to catch up, here's the story Ian is talking about.

[Rifrug]

Thanks Dave A this was the first time in possibly 10years that I watched something of carte blance, I lost all respect for them long time ago when they went after some small time electrician for also over charging to fix a DB. and at that time I saw Carte Blanche had no real stories so they were what I call (poep vir punte) It reminded me of myself many years ago when I was treated like trash by a customer who did not want to pay a deposit for a job that he wanted me to do like yesterday. After he sweared at me and said I’m probably going to quote him R30000 for a COC. Guess what? I sent him a quote for R30000 and am glad I never heard of him again. Then that “multi-meter” displayed by Matthys is not very convincing. I wonder what his insulation tester looks like.

[Derlyn]

Be grateful he isn't a doctor.

He would suggest a heart transplant if you presented yourself with a sore ankle.

Cheers and peace out ..... Derek

[ians]

another fact:

If you switch off all the breakers including the main switch... then switch on the earth leakage and it doesnt reset ...it means either the earth leakage unit is faulty or you have not reset the unit (this applies to the newer units) to reset the unit... you simply push the lever right down to the bottom and then up it should stay up...it will not reset if you just try push it back up.

If it resets and stays up then switch on the main switch only ...if it trips as you do this ...there is a good chance you have what we call a neutral fault (what they did in the video ) you then have to disconnect all the neutral conductors from the earth leakage neutral bar.

if the earth leakage resets and stays up when you switch on the main switch ...then you start switching on the circuit breakers.

[Derlyn]

another fact:



If it resets and stays up then switch on the main switch only ...if it trips as you do this ...there is a good chance you have what we call a neutral fault (what they did in the video ) you then have to disconnect all the neutral conductors from the earth leakage neutral bar.

I disagree with the above statement.

Even with a neutral fault, the earth leakage relay will not trip with the load circuit breakers turned off.

The earth leakage detects an imbalance in current between the live and neutral and cannot do this without a load present.

However

If it trips when switching on the main switch only, then the chances are 100% that the earth leakage is faulty.


Off the original topic, I know, but had to respond.

Cheers and peace out
Derek

[ians]

I disagree with the above statement.

Even with a neutral fault, the earth leakage relay will not trip with the load circuit breakers turned off.

The earth leakage detects an imbalance in current between the live and neutral and cannot do this without a load present.

However

If it trips when switching on the main switch only, then the chances are 100% that the earth leakage is faulty.


Off the original topic, I know, but had to respond.

Cheers and peace out
Derek

OK... interesting response ...that fault that they created in the video was a neutral fault and these was nothing wrong with the e/l unit... that was the point.

I can only assume that you had removed the neutral conductor and maybe even the live conductor from the bottom of the "faulty" earth leakage and tried to reset by pushing the lever to the bottom and then up ...before billing the customer for a new e/l unit... other wise you could sit with a small challenge trying to explain to the customer why the new e/l unit is tripping.

[ians]

I get a call from a customer (i have been doing work for more than 15 years) the new boiler maker had got his mate to connect a machine... and had told the customer that whoever was doing their electrical was an idiot and had no idea what they were doing... wow not lets have a look at what might be wrong ...straight the sparkie is an idiot.

I get in my vehicle and drive to site... i am only human ...maybe i did make a mistake... imagine that ...he had the machine connected to a 3 phase orange 4 wire (not 5 wire)plug with no neutral ...so to create a neutral ...he connected the earth to the neutral point to create a neutral ...because some of us do actually use 3 phase earth leakage units on our 3 phase sockets ...there was no way on this earth that you could switch on the earth leakage ...even with all the circuit breakers off ...if you switch off the main switch it will reset ...however as soon as you switch the main switch on ...the earth leakage will trip... i pointed out the problem did a temp connection to show them it would work if wired correctly with the neutral and earth not connected ... i used a 5 pin plug and imagine that the new machine ran without a problem

[ians]

I disagree with the above statement.

Even with a neutral fault, the earth leakage relay will not trip with the load circuit breakers turned off.

The earth leakage detects an imbalance in current between the live and neutral and cannot do this without a load present.

However

If it trips when switching on the main switch only, then the chances are 100% that the earth leakage is faulty.


Off the original topic, I know, but had to respond.

Cheers and peace out
Derek

This response tells me that this electrician would have given the same answer during the interview... is this person also a crook?