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    "Again" ??? It was never "Great" for all races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianh View Post
    "Again" ??? It was never "Great" for all races.
    Agreed, there has always been exploitation or oppression of some groups in South Africa. Many wars have been fought ever since its history had been recorded.
    However, there was a time when the country prospered, everyone had a job, the country had a high growth rate and a strong currency.
    There was relative peace. Politically it was still a shambles, but economically there was hardly a better place to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    Agreed, there has always been exploitation or oppression of some groups in South Africa. Many wars have been fought ever since its history had been recorded.
    However, there was a time when the country prospered, everyone had a job, the country had a high growth rate and a strong currency.
    There was relative peace. Politically it was still a shambles, but economically there was hardly a better place to be.
    What is the use of Uhuru if your children goes to bed on an empty stomach?
    Oh nonsense. There was never a time when everybody prospered. "Relative peace" was at the hand of police and brutal pass laws. Yes of course a small part of the population prospered but it all came to an end when the world decided that SA could not continue along the same path as Israel. Come on, we can't rewrite history - the one group makes out as if it was wonderful and the other group makes out as if it was absolutely terrible. To sort of quote the orange idiot "There were good and bad people on both sides" I understand what the NP was trying to do at the time and I understand why it failed.

    The only given in this country is that it will return to its roots...we can either figure ways to prosper whilst riding that taxi, bitch n moan about it or hit the road. The problem today is that the entire world is in the same boat - there is no green grass elsewhere - all the grass is covered in dead bodies, unemployment and face masks...
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    There is a difference between political freedom and financial prosperity. In both cases there is exploitation of minorities either for political power or financial gain. That is happening all over the world to a greater or lesser extent. Prosperity is when a country has a strong balance of payment, strong growth and its citizens are relatively happy. One can still be prosperous and flourish without agreeing with or being happy with the rulers of your country. In our case both our financial and political prosperity have been curbed.
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    as in any country, everything depends on these politicians, and in general on people, such and the result will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xineadola View Post
    as in any country, everything depends on these politicians, and in general on people, such and the result will be
    So why do you not vote them out of power? Why do you allow politicians to lie and corrupt and just accept it?
    People tend to "not want to get involved" because it is not the politically correct thing to do or because it may harm their self-interest.
    Or are they just too lazy to act and too stupid to realize the consequences of a corrupt government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    So why do you not vote them out of power? Why do you allow politicians to lie and corrupt and just accept it?
    People tend to "not want to get involved" because it is not the politically correct thing to do or because it may harm their self-interest.
    Or are they just too lazy to act and too stupid to realize the consequences of a corrupt government?
    Real power lies in the money backing governments (governments are merely pawns) You can vote all you like, big money controls governments no matter which political party happens to be the face at the time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianh View Post
    Real power lies in the money backing governments (governments are merely pawns) You can vote all you like, big money controls governments no matter which political party happens to be the face at the time...
    Totally agree. I have never believed in the stories about the Illuminati, but a number of facts have surfaced that have forced us to take note. The big conglomerate multinationals have surplus money many times the GDP of most countries. Why should they then not influence what happens in the countries where they operate? What happens behind the scenes at Davos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    Totally agree. I have never believed in the stories about the Illuminati, but a number of facts have surfaced that have forced us to take note. The big conglomerate multinationals have surplus money many times the GDP of most countries. Why should they then not influence what happens in the countries where they operate? What happens behind the scenes at Davos?
    It is not the Illuminati and all that kinda nonsense, it is big business like the military manufacturing industry in the US, big pharma, the oil industry etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianh View Post
    It is not the Illuminati and all that kinda nonsense, it is big business like the military manufacturing industry in the US, big pharma, the oil industry etc...
    ...serving the political and financial interests of big money.
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