Taking back the industry

**ACEsterhuizen** · 05-Nov-14, 01:15 PM

The Agreement as it stands today and on the nbcei website. Managerial Employees is now also excluded. General Assistant remains excluded. Good luck nbcei with your mission.

**Dave A** · 05-Nov-14, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by ACEsterhuizen

General Assistant remains excluded.

hmmm: And yet there's a rate determination for a General Assistant in the same document.

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I've raised the issue with the ECA National Labour Committee. Let's see what comes back as a response.

**AndyD** · 05-Nov-14, 08:56 PM

Yeah, 'hmmm' is where I'm at as well. I suspect there's probably a certain amout of artistic licence and an excess of general fanfare in the press release and a certain amount of shuffling around with job categories to suit the circumstance at hand at any particular moment and between the two it's lead to significant inconsistencies cropping up.

**ians** · 06-Nov-14, 06:30 AM

Dave let's not ruffle to many feathers on this one 😉 I would hate to have to go to all the trouble of registering my gardener (general assistant)

**ACEsterhuizen** · 06-Nov-14, 09:07 AM

Ian, added to this issue is that the "general assistant" is only allowed to work for you for a period of four months in any calender year, then, according to this agreement, you have to let him go.. :-)...but then again, the "general assistant" is excluded from this agreement so you may keep him on? ..

**ians** · 06-Nov-14, 11:04 AM

The sad part with skills, I have a little knowledge and loads of experience to pass on to a youngster, do you think with all the millions of unemployed people i can find one who wants to work and learn😏

**Dave A** · 06-Nov-14, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by ACEsterhuizen

Ian, added to this issue is that the "general assistant" is only allowed to work for you for a period of four months in any calender year, then, according to this agreement, you have to let him go.. :-)

The theory is from then on, the assistant must be paid at electrical assistant rates.

**Sparks** · 07-Nov-14, 10:55 AM

Seems to me "General Assistant" is the new name for "Temp".

**ians** · 09-Nov-14, 02:46 PM

The right way to do things in SA is to keep doing what ever it is you doing until you get caught, then act like you didnt know you were doing anything wrong.