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    Child sexual abuse in South Africa

    Interesting article in Slate Magazine

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/20...th_africa.html
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    it took too long to download, perhaps another time, not sure if I do actually want to read it?

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    I remember hearing, some years back, that the Afrikaans community had around 30% incest rate - of fathers/uncles/family on daughters. How true this is, I'm not sure.

    In Holland, a similar thing occurs. Disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desA View Post
    I remember hearing, some years back, that the Afrikaans community had around 30% incest rate - of fathers/uncles/family on daughters. How true this is, I'm not sure.

    In Holland, a similar thing occurs. Disgusting.
    It would be handy if you can find and quote the source of your info, statements like this are bound to get people irate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desA View Post
    I remember hearing, some years back, that the Afrikaans community had around 30% incest rate - of fathers/uncles/family on daughters. How true this is, I'm not sure.

    In Holland, a similar thing occurs. Disgusting.
    What an odd statement to make.

    Ek het groot geword 50% Afrikaans en 50% Engels en ek het nooit sulke stront gehoor nie. Ek het Hollandse vriende en hulle het ook nooit so iets gese nie.

    Des, anecdotal evidence is no evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianh View Post
    What an odd statement to make.

    Ek het groot geword 50% Afrikaans en 50% Engels en ek het nooit sulke stront gehoor nie. Ek het Hollandse vriende en hulle het ook nooit so iets gese nie.

    Des, anecdotal evidence is no evidence.
    I agree. The Afrikaans community was so conservative that even accompanying your cousin to bio scope was frowned upon. Yes, there has been cases of incest, mostly in poor and isolated communities (I know of only one anecdotal case) but I do not believe that it was a higher percentage than in other groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    I agree. The Afrikaans community was so conservative that even accompanying your cousin to bio scope was frowned upon. Yes, there has been cases of incest, mostly in poor and isolated communities (I know of only one anecdotal case) but I do not believe that it was a higher percentage than in other groups.
    I think that the entire discussion is absurd because there is no way to get valid statistical data. The same goes for rape and crime in general. The only data that there is, is either anecdotal or crimes that were reported.

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    With pleasure.

    I remember hearing, some years back, that the Afrikaans community had around 30% incest rate - of fathers/uncles/family on daughters. How true this is, I'm not sure.
    Based on personal testimony of a young wife & mother who was being counseled - plus various other 'known experiences' within the Christian counseling community. Over the years of her ordeal, she'd also done research in the Afrikaans community - similar 'facts' were emerging. Other folks in the field concurred with the depth of the problem, in general.

    In Holland, a similar thing occurs.
    This comment is based on my personal research in bringing a Dutch sex predator in Asia, to book - Interpol & local child-protection police were involved. Much of the feedback also came via people 'in the know'. The Dutch even have a Pedophile Party, which advocates age of consent to be 12 years old. The 'known' problem there is around 30%.

    It is a real problem in many parts of the world. SA generally suffers from denial. This is not a nice subject, at all.
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    @Des

    Incest was common during the days of the voortrekkers, as the population was small and isolated. The same happened to any isolated population anywhere in the world. Iceland is a good example. You seem to have somehow merged this fact with poor anecdotal evidence and come to the conclusion that modern Afrikaners have a high rate of incest, you even place it at 30%. This is factually incorrect. I studied child abuse as part of my psychology studies and throughout the literature there is no evidence to support your claim.

    I mean no disrespect, but you should post verifiable research results supporting your claim/belief or retract your comment and apologise.
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    Even the Pope is apologizing??? WTF
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