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    So the election is now behind us. The majority of people are fed-up with the ANC, but they still voted for them!?? What does that say about our political maturity?
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    The important thing is that a polarisation process has begun. The ANC's popularity peaked in 2004, it seems.

    The EFF will pull the ANC from the left, towards populist policies. The DA will pull the ANC from the right, towards business & investment. This will begin to pull the ANC apart.

    The next two elections will be very telling for SA. Right now, if I had a business here, I'd begin looking to move to the W.Cape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    The majority of people are fed-up with the ANC, but they still voted for them!?? What does that say about our political maturity?
    There are fairly significant shifts behind those numbers, though.

    I was listening to a discussion about British politics the other day, and given all the issues in play in their politics at the moment, I couldn't help but be struck by the thought that putting a cross in one box is an awfully simplistic way of trying to express your views across a multitude of issues.

    And our electorate faces the same problem. You may support one party's position on one issue, and another party's position on another. So what do you do?
    You're pretty much forced to discount the side shows and go where you feel most comfortable overall.

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    Excellent comments, Dave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave A View Post
    And our electorate faces the same problem. You may support one party's position on one issue, and another party's position on another. So what do you do?
    You're pretty much forced to discount the side shows and go where you feel most comfortable overall.
    For the majority of the electorate in this country its pretty easy.

    The main policy in play was .....do I choose a black party or a white party?
    The black guys had the choice - Malema or Zuma.

    In the sa political forum on facebook and other reading during the run up, very little was discussed on actual party positions and policies. Every discussion came very quickly back to the black / white issue. There was a contingent of vengeful black racists calling the whities racists and other names and everything related back to apartheid. The majority of users were quiet either condoning the black sentiment or white guys too scared to piss the black guys off.

    The problem seen in this environment appears to be that black guys idea of a debate is actually a position statement followed by a personal attack on the opposition. The white guys mostly offered timid thoughts trying to pussy foot around the issues trying to avoid an outburst of accusations of being called racists.

    So the black guys could say whatever they wanted, which mostly included hate speech and racist remarks, while the white guys discussed the weather and were labelled racist for calling the cloud dark. All related back to the whites in the world of all ages being responsible for apartheid.

    The maturity level and some real input into the policies and positions has a long way to go in this country.
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    The take on the black population is that only white people are racists, blacks can not be racists because in their mind racism is white towards black, and not the other way round.

    It is time that the whites begin fighting back, or else they will be stamped into oblivion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justloadit View Post
    The take on the black population is that only white people are racists, blacks can not be racists because in their mind racism is white towards black, and not the other way round.

    It is time that the whites begin fighting back, or else they will be stamped into oblivion.
    So would I be 'Racist' if I called a guy a "Black Bigot", knowing he couldn't be racist because he isn't white?
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    Yes - for sure - you are racist even if you called him a black beauty knowing that he wasnt but he has just told you he thinks he is.
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