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    irneb > was wondering did you ever got to play with a raspberry pi? Is there an XP only hack for it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tec0 View Post
    irneb > was wondering did you ever got to play with a raspberry pi? Is there an XP only hack for it yet?
    Sorry, no. I've not gotten the time yet. Actually didn't have much of a December even, never mind much free time for fiddling with a hobby.
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    USB 2 ports are still fitted to machines because USB 3 is not backward compatible to USB 1.1

    Did you know that full speed USB 3 actually has 9 wires. That is why the plugs are coded in blue. The blue USB A plug has the additional 5 pins imbedded deep in the plug and the USB B plug has a totally different shape to the 1.1 & 2 plug.

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    Here are some pictures of the types you will find also a bit of technical info on the more common USB 3 connectors

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    Thank you, that at least makes a bit of sense. I can possibly live with that if the "old backwards compatible" USB ports were by default placed in the less accessible positions, and the new "catch most current device connection" USB3 ports were the ones in front as well as the most numerous.

    But I'd imagine that these days 1.1 devices are rather rare to find. It would only be stuff like very old USB mice/scanners/printers/etc. I know I had an old Epson scanner which worked on USB 1.1, but since after WinXP you couldn't get it to work on newer OS's in any case. I haven't seen ANY new devises without at least USB2 connection these days, and those you can plug directly into a USB3 port!

    So to the manufacturers I'd advise one of 2 scenarios: (1) Install 4x USB3 ports and 1x USB2/1.1 instead of the usual other way round, and place the old port type at the back - again instead of the other way round. Or (2) Omit the UsB2/1.1 entirely from (at least your high-end PC) and sell extra expansion cards containing USB 2/1.1 ports for those few clients who may perhaps still be using 10+ year old devices.

    Edit: Actually one where it's an entire no-brainer to omit the USB2's is in NAS boxes. I can simply shake my head and mumble WTF in nearly all of these. I mean, for external connection to a NAS ... what exactly do you think the user is going to plug in there? An old scanner from the 90s? You certain of that? If so come here and let me
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