The future of South Africa?

[dfsa]

It's sure going to be interesting to see what comes out of the current ANC policy conference.

There is a massive power struggle. It will be interesting indeed. Zuma have stepped on a few toes lateley.

[Blurock]

The ANC is continuously looking at new ways to generate cash. They have drafted a raft of policy documents that call on mining firms to pay more to the state to help finance welfare spending. The proposals also advocate relying on state-owned enterprises to be engines of job creation and growth.

This is a government that relies (depend?) on disproportionate social spending for its popularity, and its starving for cash to maintain their socialist programmes. They are now trying to get their hands onto your pensions to invest in state owned or controlled enterprises which they can benefit from. The E-tolling fiasco is one such an example.

The ANC should be reminded of the 1980’s famine in Etiopia. About 1million people died from famine due to their socialist policies, transformation and nationalisation of productive farms. This was exacerbated by drought and political turmoil.

"Nobody in his right mind invests in a country that expropriates investments". Felipe Calderon, Mexico.

[twinscythe12332]

the overall management sucks, but incompetence by something so big often leaves opportunity for someone else.

[Blurock]

After the 1st and 2nd world wars, Germany was annihilated and had to rebuild their country from scratch. It took them only 20 years to become a major economic and industrial force in the world. East Germany was an economic disaster under communist rule until unification in 1990. The country, including East Germany is now a force in the world economy. (A good example and proof that communism does not work, as in Cuba, Russia, North Korea, the previous Yugoslavia and others, where people are suffering under state control).

Japan was almost obliterated by the atomic bomb, but 20 years later they became the biggest economy in the world. This was all due to hard work, education and innovation. (..and open competition and transparency)

The ANC has been in power for almost 20 years. What have they achieved? Zuma’s government has been criticised for ineffective leadership in tackling a broken education system, rigid labour market and chronic unemployment which is eroding the country’s economic effectiveness.

The ANC is continuously looking at new ways to generate cash. They have drafted a raft of policy documents that call on mining firms to pay more to the state to help finance welfare spending. The proposals also advocate relying on state-owned enterprises to be engines of job creation and growth.
This is a government that relies (depend?) on disproportionate social spending for its popularity, and its starving for cash to maintain their socialist programmes. They are now trying to get their hands onto your pensions to invest in state owned or controlled enterprises which they can benefit from. The E-tolling fiasco is one such an example.

The ANC should be reminded of the 1980’s famine in Etiopia. About 1million people died from famine due to their socialist policies, transformation and nationalisation of productive farms. This was exacerbated by drought and political turmoil.

[Citizen X]

The Constitutional framework of land reform in South Africa. In recent weeks we’ve seen the ANC speaking more and more about land reform. It’s noteworthy that this rhetoric comes in the aftermath of the Murray painting.
I’m totally lost about this concept of the second transition! When did the first transition end! I’m of the layperson’s opinion that if you have even 100 existing shacks, there can be no second transition. The Government does not have adequate processers in place to prevent corruption, nepotism and maladministration and/or swiftly deal with rogue elements in government.
1. Section 25 of the Constitution of 1996 makes provision for land reform with compensation. Exactly who these poor and struggling people that will get this land is an enigma. My friend Frans, lives in the Informal settlement in Lenasia. He’s 75 years old. Will his name also be on this list! I can’t help but think at many rogue elements and people in government have already got their eyes on specific pieces of land. Now these mentioned people are not poor at all, in fact, money runs like water for them!
2. The situation in Zimbabwe was a completely different scenario to the situation in South Africa
3. One can never justify minority rule alternatively racial divide which precludes a citizen from voting. Ian smith’s regime was an oppressive one in which Black people were marginalised and oppressed. It can never be said that things were better under Ian Smith but it can be said that Mugabe by virtue of his actions is far worse than Ian Smith ever was. This planet has had many dictators. The distinction between Mugabe and Hitler or Gadhafi is that both Hitler and Gadafi brought economic relief and stability when they forcefully gained complete control of their countries! Mugabe butchered the economic stability of Zimbabwe. Ian Smith was a brutal dictator but Mugabe is a far worse dictator! Mugabe promised democracy and 1 man 1 vote i.e majority rule. Many argue that Mugabe has lost several elections but still holds on to power
4. It’s very ironic that Mugabe actually had several meetings with the British in which they signed agreement and agreed to forget the past and engage in reconciliation. When violent, involuntary land reform took place in Zimbabwe, it was mostly Mugabe’s relatives, friends and loyalists who benefited, not the poor!
5. Under Apartheid forced removal of non whites occurred in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s. People’s land was taken from them and they were dumped into racially segregated areas.
6. Should our Government in a Constitutional democracy forcibly remove people from their land they will be no better than the apartheid government. Instead of focusing on nation building and giving people hop, it appear that the ANC is taking hope and peace of mind from especially white farmers.

[Dave A]

I’m totally lost about this concept of the second transition! When did the first transition end!

So is everyone else, it seems.

There seems to be some attempt to say phase one was a political transition, and this second phase will be a focus on an economic transition.

To my mind, it looks increasingly like yet another attempt to lose culpability for all the promised aspirations not delivered on as yet. The last thing the ANC needs is for a large portion of the electorate saying "you have failed me - let's try someone else."

[MGM]

The sad truth is, the majority of failed electorate will not vote for any opposition party. They will simply refrain, making their situation actually worse. But how do you get this across to them?

[wynn]

Don't vote the ANC loses 1 supporting vote!
Vote for someone else the ANC loses two supporting votes! because they now need to use 1 supporting vote to cancell out your lost vote.

[Justloadit]

Don't vote the ANC loses 1 supporting vote!
Vote for someone else the ANC loses two supporting votes! because they now need to use 1 supporting vote to cancell out your lost vote.

Eish but this math is two deeficalt for me to undirstands.

[Blurock]

Eish but this math is two deeficalt for me to undirstands.

Is that why the bulk of the population is kept illiterate? No school books, no teachers, no future. The government is filled with Dr Dolittle's.