How to get Wiremans License?

[chee_dee]

Hi Guys, me new here, first post.

(1)I am a qualified Millwright and need to get my wiremans license.

How do I go about doing that?

(2)Also, how do I go about getting registered with the ECB as a Electrical contractor?

Sweet and short.

Thanks.

ps. I stay in the Western Cape

[Gei]

Hello i am also busy getting mine, I am under the impression that all i need is trade test, N4 and have passed installation rules paper 1 and 2. Hope it has not changed!

[Alan]

I am under the impression that all i need is trade test, N4 and have passed installation rules paper 1 and 2

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As far as i know that is still the route, Chee dee you will have to do a course at one of the technical colledges and write the installation exam 1 and 2.

[murdock]

its not that simple...its not a wiremans license anymore.

you can become:

a single phase tester
3 phase installation tester
or a master electrician

there are various requirements for each different catergory.

i would contact the local ECA in your area and find out the correct requirements

[Dave A]

i would contact the local ECA in your area and find out the correct requirements

Or go to MERSETA who will tell you something completely different

[Gei]

if anyone has recently written installations rules paper 1 or 2 can they answer me why the hell is there written compulsory next to some of the questions???

[skatingsparks]

To reduce the chance of improving 2% pass rate country wide on this INSANELY hard exam?

[Dave A]

Not having written this paper...

Some exam papers are structured with a certain number of compulsory questions, and then a section where you have to answer (as example) 3 out of 5 questions where you can pick which ones you want to answer. Would that make sense here?

[murdock]

when i wrote the first exam for installations rules...there where 2 papers one on day 1 then the second on day 2...you had to pass both exams with more than 50 % for each


just when i thought there was no need to study any more they came out with the master electrician requirements...if you think it was difficult to become an installation electrician...wait till you decide to become a master electrician...there are 15 books....2 days of exams which you have to pass both with more than 50% and you have to have ntc6 as a minimum requirement with years of experience to consider the application.

[Gei]

i had two question papers, each a week apart, I am stuck in a town called umtata, so there is no classes and no people to ask for help, so i phoned college in pe and the lecturer there said it might be a typo cause there is no optional questions, all of them has to be done..... oh well next block i try again and again and eventually i shall succeed. Thanks for a kick ass forum, kinda cool to know i can come here to ask questions and get a honest reply!!

[murdock]

i was in umtata a couple of months ago...we went down to inspect and test the new clinics operating theatres.

between changing the formats and sabs codes it must be quite a challenge getting any sort of qualifictions now days...i wish you luck.

[JustJohann]

I got a list of so called requirments from the departmenr of labour about 2 yers ago when i tried to apply. You need for a 3 phase installation tester: n3 ( i got n4) trade test (done) instaltion rules papers 1 and 2 ( got it like 4 years ago) and you need to have worked as a trade tested electricain for atleast 2 years ( almost 5 years) and then you need a nqf level 4 course called test and inspect industrial/comercial instalation.Good luck in trying to obtain that as i have been trying for the last 2 years either they dont know of it or they are stil implementing it. I now have a contact number of someone in the eca who deals with this isues and wil post as soon as i have more info.

[skatingsparks]

Anyone worked out how to get a wireman licience yet?

Hello there

Right, so have passed Installation Rules papers 1 and 2 (just). I have UK Qualifications and am still(one year and 2 months down the line) trying to get SAQA to give me something higher than an N3. Now the one piece of information I managed to get from the ECA is that if you have an N4 you don't need to do a trade test(booked in for trade test, they tell me some time around September 2010). Can someone confirm this for me as I don't have much faith in one certain person who I have to deal with at the ECA(all he says is "wait....." and more is concerned that I spread the word to the UK that South Africans eat pup and gravy). I'm, after a 10 months here working a crap job for 20 weeks of those 10 month, having to go back to the UK for 4 months to get more qualifications, coming back again and being to told to "wait", am keen to get going now.

So SAQA should come back with at least an N4, I believe this to be the case because:-

1. They asked for one level 3 qualification and I have now bought them 4
2. Because there are no more electrician quailfications (electrician wise) to get in the UK apart from Portable Appliance Testing which would be as worthless here as it is in the UK(sorry to offend if you worked to get this but it doesn't seem to be required here)

So I "should" have an N4 and I have passed the Installation rules.

I asked about the single phase tester course and the 3 phase tester course but was told to "wait". Wait for what I don't know.

So do I need to do the single phase tester course and 3 phase tester course.

Done plenty of testing, just passed the UK Testing exam and used to work at Megger (World leading test instrument manufacturer). Signed off 100's UK's version of the COC for everything from houses, papermills, bars, office buildings, factories blah blah blah.....

So what next? Who do I go to? Where can I do the testing course(if I need to). The only place I found was P and T technology and its expensive (6000 or so).

Any ideas because, call me a git, I kind of feel I have made the effort now. I am here on a skills quota visa and just want to do the work I have been doing for the last 10 years over here.

Alternatively anyone need an electrician(UK trained) in Jo Burg?

[skatingsparks]

This might help

Just found this (by accident)

Has lots of answers

http://www.ecbsa.co.za/EIR2009.pdf

[JustJohann]

Finaly got something hopefully its right

Requirements to register as a Instalation (Electrician3 phase installation tester):

N3 electrical (4 subjects)
Trade test sertificate (electrician,millwright)
2 papers on sans 10142-1
2 unit standards on testing and coc for three phase instalations.(The 2 unit standards i am attending next week for 2 weeks at a place called EE services in Bloemfontein tel 0514512251. I got the name and number from a lady in the ecb offices in bloemfontein)

Then you need to go to department of labour and get a registration form wich also tells you what you need. It is the above mention plus proof that you worked atleast 2 years in the trade as a quailified electrician,2 id photo's one of wich must be sertified and R120 in revenue stamps (post office).Send Cerified copies of all qualifications,proof of employment and id to the department of labour and then sit back and wait for it.It takes plus minus two weeks

There is also one for singel phase tester to me a useless one as you can only do house and have to have almost the same stuff as the one above. Master comes after the one i mentioned and is for hospitals,explosives areas and such. If you want more info leave me a message.

Only after you got your wiremans license can you apply with the eca/ecb wich is simple compared to the process of getting the wiremans