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  • ians
    Diamond Member

    • Apr 2010
    • 3943

    #16
    Originally posted by Derlyn
    Not the meter's fault. It was just measuring what was going through it.

    Yep, installing sub meters can sometimes be a headache, ensuring that only the correct circuits go through it.
    Most of the times it involves installing another sub DB for the meter.

    Prepaid water meters can be even more difficult to install with back to back showers, hand basins and toilets.
    The nice challenging one's are when all the plumbing is flush..... nothing surface ...... and you have to work out where the supply or supplies are.

    That's why we not shy to charge.

    Peace out ... Derek Stuart
    nothing beats my plug install ... I used a breaker to chip out the wall for the conduits ... next thing there was an old lady from the flat next door ... the impact from the breaker had knocked all the tiles off her bathroom wall. ... R1200 plug install ... R5000 tile replacement the element replacement still wins hands down ... flooded a house ... eeeeish.
    Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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    • Derlyn
      Platinum Member

      • Mar 2019
      • 1748

      #17
      Originally posted by ians
      A smart meter just makes it possible to view a trend and logs everything ... you would be able to see when something is sucking power ... for example this problem with the plugs connected back to back ... if the customer had a smart meter ... they could see that everything was switched off and still sucking power and not a kwh or 2.

      These other silly pre paid meters are like pre paid airtime you have not control of what is happening and when it is happening ... as sparks mentioned things are changing prices are booming ... people want to know what is consuming power and when.
      Not so difficult with our "silly little meters"

      Switch off everything. Red light still flashing on "silly" meter and balance dropping.

      You know something is still "sucking" power. Easy peezy.

      Peace out ... Derek Stuart.

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      • Dave A
        Site Caretaker

        • May 2006
        • 22810

        #18
        Originally posted by ians
        Here we are "registered electrical contractors" who carry out test reports and COC's ... on a public forum ... confused about the rules and regs ...
        That's one of the reasons this site was set up - to try to shine a light into the dark corners and get answers...
        Participation is voluntary.

        Alcocks Electrical Services | Alcocks Pest Control & Entomological Services | Alcocks Hygiene Services

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        • ians
          Diamond Member

          • Apr 2010
          • 3943

          #19
          Originally posted by Derlyn
          Not so difficult with our "silly little meters"

          Switch off everything. Red light still flashing on "silly" meter and balance dropping.

          You know something is still "sucking" power. Easy peezy.

          Peace out ... Derek Stuart.
          But it doesnt tell you how much power and when it used the power ... nor can it show you a current trend of usage.

          An ASC would be a better choice ... it would give me a daily KWH usage and I could use it to schedule and manually switch it on and off ... the only catch is I am restricted to 30 amps and I am not sure how accurate they are for power consumption.

          When I get a gap I want to look at sonoff ... they seem tp have a few devices.
          Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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          • ians
            Diamond Member

            • Apr 2010
            • 3943

            #20
            Originally posted by Dave A
            That's one of the reasons this site was set up - to try to shine a light into the dark corners and get answers...
            We are grateful (even though at times it doesnt seem like it) ... It has been a huge help for many people ... including myself ... It is a pity more electricians dont share information or ask more questions.

            I encourage people to join in ... the more people who get involved the more we can learn from each other.
            Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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            • ians
              Diamond Member

              • Apr 2010
              • 3943

              #21
              Originally posted by Dave A
              When was this question asked?
              Anthony or Chris?
              As an electrical contractor ... are staff members who work their way up the skills level ... issued with some form of identification to identify their ability when they are working on site under supervision or left on site as in the case with many sites ?

              Is it a requirement for all personal who have any form of qualification to carry their identification with them at all times ?

              Has I just rattled a wasp nest ?

              This would be a good start to cleaning up the industry and not only the electrical industry ... but all industries ... including "technicians".

              Labour rates are dependant on the skill level ... so if a labourer is left on site and you only charging R600 ... that would sound like a few rate to be charging customers ?

              However if a master electrician is on site on a domestic site ... you cant really charge R1500 per hour because a qualified electrician could do the job at a lower rate ... so there would be a limit of around R800 per hour ... unless you want he job done to a high standard.
              Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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              • ians
                Diamond Member

                • Apr 2010
                • 3943

                #22
                Why I mentioned technician ... many people assume a technician is a highly skilled person with many years of experience and even some form of NTC education at level NTC 6 or higher.

                In reality many companies which offer "technicians" ... who are regarded as qualified after a couple of days of maybe a week or 2 of training ... paying a "technician" R500 per hour ... with 2 weeks training ... then whining about paying an electrician R600 per hour ... with 3 years of training and many years of practical training ... is actually an insult to the electrician.
                Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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