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  • SeanM
    Bronze Member

    • Mar 2018
    • 120

    #1

    [Question] Pool Light

    Greetings All

    I have a customer that said his LED pool light has been changed 3 times as when it is installed the light is bright but in a few weeks the light goes very dim.

    I changed the TRFR to the correct one but the same issue occurs, any ideas?
  • GCE
    Platinum Member

    • Jun 2017
    • 1473

    #2
    Hi SeanM
    The question is a bit open ended - How long is the light on for at a time , or is it every night for the night - is it on a daylight switch,timer or manual.
    I assume you have a normal double wound transformer installed - I found that if you switch on and off quickly the surge is sufficient to take out some of the LED's - I installed a dimmer on the 220v side and it seem to stop/slow down the deterioration of the LED's

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    • Justloadit
      Diamond Member

      • Nov 2010
      • 3518

      #3
      To make the price cheap on the pool lights, there is no active current limiting in the circuit, only resistors. They rely on the transformer supply not being higher than 13 or 14V AC. This means that if the voltage is higher, then the LEDs are voltage over driven.
      Many transformers which come out of the east are made in an attempt to maintain 12V at the rated current, one cheap trick is to add more turns making the no load voltage higher. These transformers were originally designed for the incandescent headlamp type light, which with the load, would drop to 12V AC. Now using the LED light on the same transformer, which hardly loads it, and the AC voltage can go as high as 18V, almost 50% of rated voltage. This of course now over drives the LEDs and they run hot and fail.

      Measure the transformer no load voltage and see what it is.
      I suggest you install a SMPS with 15V DC output, if you use 12V then the LEDs are not so bright.
      Why 15V and not 12V?
      The pool lights work on the peak voltage of the rectified AC voltage, and the current limiting resistors are calculated for this voltage. So for a 12V AC input, rectified and smoothed by a capacitor is equivalent to 12V X 1.404 = 16.8V
      Now do the calculation for 18V, that amounts to just over 25V.
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      • adrianh
        Diamond Member

        • Mar 2010
        • 6328

        #4
        What JustLoadIt Said!

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        • Jaws
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2020
          • 14

          #5
          I know this an old thread but someone pointed it out to me when they installed a SMPS on their pool light.

          For pool lights you must use a class II isolating transformer (double wound transformer) with a maximum output of 12 V

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