The Electrical Certificate of Compliance explained

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  • Sparks
    Gold Member

    • Dec 2009
    • 909

    #91
    And they ask why I am grey and half bald

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    • Tab Khambule
      New Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 3

      #92
      I fully agree with you sparks.
      Thanks

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      • Belz
        New Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 3

        #93
        Hi hoping for some advice. In the process of doing CoC and the electrician has said we need to replace a ceiling fan because the chain switch is broken, but the fan can also be switched on/off on a wall switch, is it really necessary to replace the fan because of the chain switch? The electrician did replace the chain switch but the new one does nothing either.

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        • Sparks
          Gold Member

          • Dec 2009
          • 909

          #94
          Firstly, the ceiling fan has nothing to do with the COC. Secondly the "electrician" does not know how to find the fault on a fan so I am wondering whether he knows what he is doing at all. For interest sake the fan has 3speeds, it has to start at the fastest speed as it does not have the torque to start at lower speeds. If it does regularly, it will burn the motor out which is what I suspect has been the fault all along.

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          • W-TDMI
            Full Member
            • May 2013
            • 39

            #95
            Originally posted by Belz
            Hi hoping for some advice. In the process of doing CoC and the electrician has said we need to replace a ceiling fan because the chain switch is broken, but the fan can also be switched on/off on a wall switch, is it really necessary to replace the fan because of the chain switch? The electrician did replace the chain switch but the new one does nothing either.
            Hi. First things first. As mentioned by SPARKS the fan does not form part of the installation other than its position and supply. (6.16.1.1). The fan is regarded as a fixed appliance (6.16.1.3) and therefore should comply to regulation in that regard (Its position and supply). If its protected by E/L no disconnector is required. If not protected by E/L a disconnector shall be installed within 1.5m from the fan (6.16.1.4).

            Hope it helped
            TDMI
            ~INSPECT, TEST, VERIFY, CERTIFY~

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            • Belz
              New Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 3

              #96
              Originally posted by Sparks
              Firstly, the ceiling fan has nothing to do with the COC. Secondly the "electrician" does not know how to find the fault on a fan so I am wondering whether he knows what he is doing at all. For interest sake the fan has 3speeds, it has to start at the fastest speed as it does not have the torque to start at lower speeds. If it does regularly, it will burn the motor out which is what I suspect has been the fault all along.
              Hi Sparks thank you for the reply, yes I am also bit skeptical now as to whether he knows what he is doing or not!

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              • Belz
                New Member
                • Jan 2018
                • 3

                #97
                Originally posted by W-TDMI
                Hi. First things first. As mentioned by SPARKS the fan does not form part of the installation other than its position and supply. (6.16.1.1). The fan is regarded as a fixed appliance (6.16.1.3) and therefore should comply to regulation in that regard (Its position and supply). If its protected by E/L no disconnector is required. If not protected by E/L a disconnector shall be installed within 1.5m from the fan (6.16.1.4).

                Hope it helped
                TDMI
                Hi TDMI

                Thank you for your reply, it was very helpful.

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                • homeowner
                  New Member
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 2

                  #98
                  a little advice please

                  Good evening, I hope I'm in the right thread but you all seem to be the best people to give me some advice so please can I have some suggestions.
                  We have just had a building contractor do a renovation for us. We entrusted him to vet all tradespersons. He insisted he use his own people and I couldn't argue with his logic. To cut to the chase - his electrician recently gave me a COC (contractor was not on site). I googled how to vet the COC and found ECBSA website - punched in both registration numbers on the page as well as his name - Nothing ?
                  I contacted the builder to ask for a copy of elec wiremans licence and registration so that I could validate the COC and was given runaround for a week, now "apparently" the electrician has had a fall of a roof and will be in hospital for a few months. REALLY? This coincides with the end of the retainer period strangely enough.
                  I would like to know, if I could validate the COC without the wiremans licence or registration, with the COC alone? Should I just get another electrical company to issue a new COC in case there are a few problems before the retainer runs out?

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                  • Dave A
                    Site Caretaker

                    • May 2006
                    • 22810

                    #99
                    Originally posted by homeowner
                    I googled how to vet the COC and found ECBSA website - punched in both registration numbers on the page as well as his name - Nothing ?
                    That just means he's not a member of the Electrical Conformance Board.

                    Rather check if the electrical contractor is registered with the Department of Labour, which is the statutory requirement.

                    Unfortunately there is no online resource to do this - you're going to have to phone. The contact number for Cape Town is 021 441 8000/8086.
                    Participation is voluntary.

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                    • homeowner
                      New Member
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 2

                      #100
                      Thank you, on it.

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                      • maseral
                        New Member
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 8

                        #101
                        Greetings, I am in the process of getting my Wireman's licence. I would want to know if only registered electrical contractor can purchase a COC pads and if they can only be purchased by union members through their unions such as ECA and ECB if not who else is allowed to sell them

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                        • GCE
                          Platinum Member

                          • Jun 2017
                          • 1473

                          #102
                          Hi

                          The ECA will only supply COC's to registered Electrical contractors as only a registered Electrical contractor can issue a COC . There are exceptions where you will be completing a COC for own property or in an Industrial environment.

                          The ECA sells to non members as well

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                          • Sparks
                            Gold Member

                            • Dec 2009
                            • 909

                            #103
                            Once you have your accreditation certificate, you must register with DOL and then only will you be able to purchase COCs' on presentation of those credentials.

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                            • maseral
                              New Member
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 8

                              #104
                              Urgent question: I am issuing a COC for a church in the rural areas and they're telling me they don't have a stand number.What do I do

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                              • Leecatt
                                Silver Member

                                • Jul 2008
                                • 404

                                #105
                                Used Google maps to locate the map co-ordinates
                                To make a mistake is human, to learn from that mistake is knowledge and knowledge is strength.

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