When is enough enough?

[tec0]

The outcome was as predictable as I thought it would be. People post exactly what I thought they would.

[HR Solutions]

Yep probably had enough whining and complaining I would sapy.

[adrianh]

I suppose I see the world largely through what I try to instil in my kids. You know, the 12 year old is an avid horse rider. She rides horses that are way bigger than her. Her attitude towards it is this, she will keep trying until she masters the art, she goes for lessons once a week and she begs us to go work on the farm. She works on the farm, yes she does pick up horse crap, wash them groom them and clean tack. She has never asked to be paid or complained about the work she does on the farm. My wife and the owner-ess of the farm, an 84 year old spinster who runs the farm with an iron fist, have a standing arrangement that she will go to the farm and help if ever the lady needs her. She spends most Sundays there and she spends 70% of her holiday time at the farm. The old lady lets my daughter ride a bit after work as a reward and that is reward enough for her to work her butt off. She does show jumping and often falls, she shakes off the dust and gets back on, aches and pains or not. She has never ever said that she is scared of a horse or that she is scared of falling. She simply says that she needs to control the horse better. Now the thing is this, I live with a wife who is ultra driven, she gets up at 5am and goes to sleep at 11pm, no complaints, she does what she does because that is the way she is. My daughters are both provincial skaters and of course the little one terrorizes farm animals. I am simply unwilling to accept that one has no control over one's destiny, if a 12 year old can pick up horse crap all day long on the off chance that she gets to ride a bit then I think that those who do nothing but complain need to look within and see where the real problem lies.

[desA]

Essentially a failure to seriously allow for all the other realities out there that differ significantly from your own. The problem is aggravated when the protagonists become so fixated and post at such a rate, they don't allow the time for others to introduce more perspective to the discussion.

Individuals slowing down their post rate in a thread where they're becoming... overly engaged... will make a difference - it'll allow a broader perspective a chance to pop up and sink in.

Hence my appeal to slow down when you're getting caught up in the heat of the moment, which is certainly a lot easier to actually execute than another solution, being don't take criticism personally (which I entirely understand is not easy at times).

Very wide words, Dave.

The concept of trying not to get caught up in the rush of the moment is a very valid one.

[tec0]

Fighting the good fight is all that matters. There is no history, no tomorrow, no today if you are not willing to step-up and stand-up for what is right and just, then what are you doing? As this mentality slowly gains momentum you will see change. People will no longer conform because there is no place for them in your perfect world.

Well this world isn’t perfect nor is humanity. So just because we have flaws and perform a tiny bit slower than the average now we are not allowed to live! What is the point of technology then? Why have spell-check, voice to text and other such technology?

If you want to use test and other such systems to rob people from a chance. If you are to greedy to narrow minded to implement the absolute basics. Then you are part of a growing problem. Like a cancer you just grow and grow and grow consuming healthy flesh and blood turning it into a useless lump filled with decay death not unlike a poison.

Tell you what reward is what you make of it. For some it is riding a horse for someone else it is handing out free hot soup on a cold dark night. A job is simply a way to earn as is a business or enterprise. But as most people know it is no longer a game of wealth rather a game of sustainability.

[adrianh]

So why don't you start a little business and make some money or create a sustainable little vegetable garden. There are hundreds of people selling all sorts of stuff at robots, why don't you make something that they can sell.

My point is this: in the words of NIKE: Just Do It

[vieome]

Well this world isn’t perfect nor is humanity. So just because we have flaws and perform a tiny bit slower than the average now we are not allowed to live! What is the point of technology then? Why have spell-check, voice to text and other such technology?

I have avoided this thread but now feel compelled to add my 2 cents.

Firstly tec0 as you want others to allow you to express your opinion, so must you allow them to express theirs. Secondly when rubbed the wrong way in post, you have a choice to respond or not, and your many post suggest that you do see a cause and effect in this world, so practice it. Sometimes the best response is no response. You see many things as predictable, so exercise that authority, if you know the direction the thread is going, back up a bit so that it does not go in that direction.

Another thing I want to point out, is that I am myself am a dyslexic typist, when I write on paper, grammer and spelling, punctuation are correct, but when typing that goes out the window. On an added note However not knowing the difference between There, They're, Their is not dyslexia, that is just not knowing the rules .

http://www.theretheyretheir.com/

There

Use there to refer to a physical or abstract place. Usually, if you can replace there with here in the same sentence, and it still makes sense, then you are using it correctly.
Examples

"There is an old haunted house."

"We are going over there to eat."
They're

Use they're as a contraction for they are. Usually, if you can replace they're with they are in the same sentence, and it still makes sense, then you are using it correctly.
Examples

"They're coming over for dinner."

"I wonder who they're talking to."
Their

Use their to show possession, commonly followed by a noun. Usually, if you can replace their with our in the same sentence, and it still makes sense, then you are using it correctly.
Examples

"Their dog is pretty awesome."

"Have you seen their new store?"

However it is well known

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Like they say, enough is enough but it takes two to tango.

But if you continue to feel attacked in this unfair world, just know no matter how bad things get it could always be worse, or better depending how you interpret it

[tec0]

I have avoided this thread but now feel compelled to add my 2 cents.

Firstly tec0 as you want others to allow you to express your opinion, so must you allow them to express theirs. Secondly when rubbed the wrong way in post, you have a choice to respond or not, and your many post suggest that you do see a cause and effect in this world, so practice it.

I don’t mind if people get creative or write about their concerns. They don’t need my permission and if it is within my capability to help I will give my input and research the topic at hand. But this is not about people having there say.

This is about people wanting to break everything down and twist words to turn it into something ugly. That is not cool by any standard.

[Dave A]

Yep ....... But not always the solution. But anyway. ......

Agreed. And as one of the protagonists, would you mind helping too please?

This is about people wanting to break everything down and twist words to turn it into something ugly. That is not cool by any standard.

Actually, for the rest of us this isn't just about you. Using Adrian's analogy of his daughters, it's about their friends coming over, and a few of them repeatedly getting into brawl after brawl all over the house.

And every time you've got the one kid standing there with clenched fists going "they started it", and the others kids going
(and full of sage advice for "angry kid" too )

Wouldn't be too much of a problem for the rest of us and we could leave them to settle their differences eventually - except for the trail of destruction through the house this on-going rolling brawl leaves in its wake.

Of course we could banish them, except that we can see they're actually great kids...
... at least when they're not slugging it out with each other.

[adrianh]

The only thing I can do is to leave the kid with foreign ways alone and not to engage in debates regarding the strangeness of those ways.

[HR Solutions]

They don’t need my permission

Yep and please remember that - we are entitled to our opinion.

[tec0]

Yep and please remember that - we are entitled to our opinion.

People also have a right to life don't you know... but I digress. More to the point if am the big bad bully then please delete my profile contributions and so on. If I am guilty then I must accept it and move on. I am not without my mistakes but I am not without reason.

and no it is not just about me... I cannot imagine how-many hopefuls go home never knowing why and how processes that they may or may not know off effected there heading.

That is why I am thankful of this forum because I got a "real world education here". I know now what my chances are.

DaveA if you want to put this mutt [me] to sleep no hard-feelings

[adrianh]

@HR - remember the days when we were in primary school and some guy at the back of the class kept throwing bits of paper at us... If you ignore them long enough they eventually give up. There is no point in showing a horse the way to the watering hole when it is on a quest to die of thirst. Don't engage in a tit for tat...it's not worth the effort.

[HR Solutions]

G'night .........

[desA]

Relative length scales (1-10):

Tec0 = 10
Adrianh = 10
Hr Solutions = 10

All sorted? Now, who's going to go round & scrub the house clean - removing all traces of the spat - & repair threads destroyed in the process? Dave A.