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  • Frankincense
    Silver Member

    • Nov 2008
    • 201

    #1

    [Question] Linking the Illuminati & SARB

    Greetings Kings,

    In this Thread,
    a peek inside the SA Reserve Bank

    DaveA asked the question :"I wonder if a list of major shareholders and their interest is publicly available? " Re:SARB

    This prominent question I feel has not been answered in the thread! Can anyone assist me in obtaining this information?

    If SARB has 14 directors, 7 Private and 7 Government (only of late as was 6Pvt and 5 Gov originally) why only 10 photo's on thier website?

    Also who grabbed more than the 10 000 shares before they capped it as they were able to keep whateva they had grabbed?

    I would like to connect them them back to our current International Bankers who assist them in thier strategies as interests me. Any help would be great
    Last edited by Dave A; 10-Nov-08, 08:00 PM. Reason: link cleanup
  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22806

    #2
    Here is the SA Reserve Bank Promotion of Access to Information Manual. You could always ask them directly

    I see the shares are traded and there has been some activity during the year. Would the share register be open to public inspection? I don't know if there has to be public disclosure of the shareholders

    Just love the current open sell offer
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    • Frankincense
      Silver Member

      • Nov 2008
      • 201

      #3
      I will find out and feedback...

      Saw this same "open offer" earlier today, but it's capped at 10 000....that's why I wanna see who got the many 100K's of shares before they capped it making up the large %'s of the 2 million shares,.....

      This is criminal...end times ....

      Added a little something to the "a peek inside the SA Reserve Bank" thread I thought you may enjoy reading...if in agreement with your understanding....

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      • milan96
        New Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 2

        #4
        Some more facts and questions regarding the SARB

        Here are some facts and questions regarding the SARB!
        1.) The share register is not public, the shareholders have the right to see/inspect it.
        2.) The register is incomplete!
        3.) The SARB has app. 650 shareholders
        4.) In the register is no single shareholder with more than 10.000 shares
        5.) SARB personal are holding shares, some are registered under the address of the SARB
        6.) Tito Mboweni owns 10.000 shares
        7.) There is no control from the shareholders, Mboweni do not allow this!
        8.) At the last AGM it was not allowed to asked questions
        9.) The proxy of the shareholder are appointed by Mboweni
        10.) A check of the delegation of shares from shareholders for the AGM to the management is not permitted!
        11.) The control of the SARB by the shareholders is not possible and is prevent by the government and Mboweni
        12.) In the reality the shareholders do not have any rights
        13.) A lawsuit against the SARB and Mboweni will last some years and will cost some R100,000
        14.) In my eyes, Mboweni is a lousy Governor and a gangster
        15.) From where Tito knows the immigration status of Michael Duerr? From where got Tito his detailed information about Duerr (see also noseweek 101)? What role does the NIA plays?
        16.) Where is the gold of the SARB? In Pretoria or in Zuerich or in both locations? There are a lot of details in this direction!
        17.) Why does the SARB and Tito are so frightened of Duerr and Pretorius?
        18.) What’s behind the fear? For sure not the amount of the salary of Tito!

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        • Frankincense
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          • Nov 2008
          • 201

          #5
          Some more info and comments on SARB as we await...

          2.) The register is incomplete!
          I believe they will not disclose who owns the real BIG shares that Tito has to bow down to(His Foriegn Bosses), as they control the money supply desicions. There are those who were allowed to keep thier "over 10 000" amount, and deleted their names off the register when devaluing and delisting to make it a mickey-mouse affair for those ignorant aspirant shareholders.

          7.) There is no control from the shareholders, Mboweni do not allow this!
          My feeling is the current shareholders will never be granted any influence as they dont really count, only those hidden(The founding shareholders) have a say and wont even appear on the register.

          8.) At the last AGM (shareholders were)not allowed to asked questions
          With SARB being part of the Global One World currency project - No One should ask too many questions as we are speaking of a global 666 "No buying or selling without a mark" type situation and every question tends do deserve an answer - big problem for International Bankers. End Game goal.

          11.) The control of the SARB by the shareholders is not possible and is prevented by the government and Mboweni
          I would think the current "fictitious" shareholders having less than 10 000 shares do not have any say anyways, as they do not represent those behind the curtain who are calculating our destruction for thier gain.

          12.) In the reality the shareholders do not have any rights.
          The purpose of the New World Order rising through our financial systems is to have a centralised economy with "all rights removed" where We are all tracked and monitored and can only interact with approved chips and financial compliant systems. No surpirse here...SARB is SA's little Illuminati satellite station on the tip of the African continent eager as ever for the roll-out. Dont expect much in the near future....Expect :"Shut him up, I've got a lot invested in this"

          13.) A lawsuit against the SARB and Mboweni will last some years and will cost some R100,000
          There's no use...Who can make war against the Beast? They the controllers who dont like questions own the "independant" Judiciary, UN, IMF, World Bank and World Court...amongst coutries/corporates and governements alike.

          14.) In my eyes, Mboweni is a lousy Governor and a gangster
          How about a "supporter of the New World Order, not caring about your rights, ready to destroy and remove all civilian liberties in the name of "national security" with a smile.

          15.) From where Tito knows the immigration status of Michael Duerr? From where got Tito his detailed information about Duerr (see also noseweek 101)? What role does the NIA play?
          I dont think it's about Duerr intrinsically....He's just an "innocent" civilian requesting respect from his own destroyers. It coulda been you or me. Whoever starts challenging and asking questions will fail. There will be evasion until the end of this when the mystery has been finally been revealed.

          17.) Why does the SARB and Tito are so frightened of Duerr and Pretorius?
          Mr Mboweni has a specific mandate to assist the Illuminati in rolling out the final stage of the financial manipulation of our society to achieve the End Goal. Him and those who direct the large banking institutions (Big 4)do not need you to know what they are planning for you nor your children. They want you to go home, watch Egoli and the News and eat your TV dinner and go to work the next morning "buying-in" to your controllers and governers press releases and parliamentary speeches. They do not want you to think too much, coz you may just get in their way. The last thing they need is an informed consciouss society.

          18.) What’s behind the fear? For sure not the amount of the salary of Tito!
          It's greater than just Tito - He's just a puppet dancing to his masters. The fear of revelation and poor meditation! He has a scorecard, and letting the "scam of the millenium" out is not part of it. His, and those he supports' plan cannot happen unless people consent. If We know the facts, then it will be done by conquest...OMG! Consent is their primary strategy at this stage.

          Two authorities are responsible for prudential supervision in South Africa, namely the South African Reserve Bank (SARB), which supervises banks, and the Financial Services Board (FSB), which regulates all other financial institutions, services and markets

          The SARB and the FSB administer separate statutes developed independently, in different time periods, which were intended to serve specific regulatory requirements of different financial sub-sectors. This resulted in South Africa’s financial regulation lacking total consistency in respect of philosophy, objectives, principles, standards, and practical impact. In addition, these laws did not allow for competitive neutrality between different classes of financial institutions and functions. These factors, combined with the emergence of conglomerates and the need for greater
          regulatory cooperation, led to calls for a ‘holistic’ approach to financial supervision, first by the Jacobs Committee in 1992, which proposed that a ‘Financial Regulation Policy Board’ be established to coordinate the SARB and FSB, and later by the Melamet Committee in 1993, which recommended the establishment of a single regulatory authority, via the merger of the SARB and the FSB. In the event, the recommendation of the Jacobs Committee prevailed, and the Policy Board was established and started functioning on 1 July 1993 and, with effect from 15 November 1993, was transformed into a statutory body. The Policy Board has no executive powers.

          SARB was corrupt eversince it's foreign founders...Jacobs was an Amercian Accountant...let's focus on his region a little and get an idea of his backround...

          "I believe that Banking Institutions are more dangerous than standing armies...if the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency...the banks and corporations that will grow up arround them will deprive the people of their property until thier children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered" Thomas Jefferson 1743 - 1826

          "If you want to remain slaves of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control the nations credit" Sir Josiah Stamp 1880 - 1941

          "Our great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men...who necessarily, by very reason of thier own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.
          We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominent men." Woodrow Wilson - 28th President USA 1856 - 1924

          At the passing of the Federal Reserve Act 1913, congressman Louis McFadden said "A wold banking system was being set up here...a superstate set up by international bankers...acting together to enslave the world for thier own pleasure. The FED has usurped the government."

          "Under the Federal reserve act, panics are scientifically created. The present panic is the first scientifically created one, worked out as we figure a mthematical equation." Charles Lindbergh

          YouTube - Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis? Bombshell

          "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and i care not who makes it's laws" Mayer Amschel Rothschild - Founder of Rothschilds banking dynasty

          On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON.
          The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee and has YET TO BE ACTED ON.

          Jacobs only came to assist in a restructure to change the focus from those who were to be held accountable to institutions and policies....SA has also been suckered into this masterplan......Don't even think of revolting agianst SARB...or even asking questions at an AGM

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          • Dave A
            Site Caretaker

            • May 2006
            • 22806

            #6
            Expect :"Shut him up, I've got a lot invested in this"
            Or nothing.

            The notion that rats run the universe as per Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe comes to mind. The problem with proving or disproving the presence of secret societies is that they tend to operate in secret. Proving that something doesn't exist is far more difficult than speculating that it does exist.

            Flipping the issue around a bit, though - what value trading system would you like to see put in place?
            Should we outlaw credit?
            Should we outlaw interest?
            Can we operate without central banks?
            If not, who should be in charge of them?
            What checks and balances would you like to see in place?
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            • Chatmaster
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              • Aug 2006
              • 1065

              #7
              I have a moment of deja vu here. Anyone ever watched Zeitgeist?
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              • Dave A
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                • May 2006
                • 22806

                #8
                Or read/watched The Da Vinci Code.
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                • wynn
                  Diamond Member

                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3338

                  #9
                  Banks limited to lending out and borrowing the amount of money they can pay back, they do it to us, why should they be different?

                  Managers who earn fat bonusses being held personally responsible if their decisions result in dragging a bank down, same as if I drag my business down the creditors come to me.

                  Paying a greater percentage of the money they earn as interest, after all if they earn less than expected they are quick to reduce the interest they pay us.

                  Banks should not be permitted to speculate, look what the sub-prime market did to us and we didn't even have any exposure.

                  On the subject of the Reserve Bank, I see Mboweni is being sued!
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                  • msmoorad
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                    • Jan 2009
                    • 179

                    #10
                    ABSA

                    hello all- just joined.
                    by the way - do u know that Barclays of england is majority shareholder of ABSA & Nathan Rothschild owns 56 % of Barclays?
                    A “conspiracy theory” no longer means an event explained by a conspiracy. Instead, it now means any explanation, or even a fact, that is out of step with the government’s explanation and that of its media pimps.

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                    • Frankincense
                      Silver Member

                      • Nov 2008
                      • 201

                      #11
                      ..and so the pieces of the puzzle shall come together...as it's written, so shall it be....all that was hidden shall be revealed....

                      And so we see who owns: ABSA - Today, 2mw, foreva???

                      Some would then think to move their accounts elsewhere, once familiarising themselves with the Rothschilds' ethics concerning Banking. Here a bit of history and quotes for those who plead ignorance still and for those who revel in the truth:
                      "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes it's laws" Mayer Amschel Rothschild - Founder of Rothschilds banking dynasty
                      "This remarkable coup could only have been achieved by a complex series of dealings, many of which were encased in a secrecy which cannot now be penetrated." - Derek Wilson, discussing how, in only 5 years (1810-1815), Nathan Rothschild became the main banker for the British government and the Bank of England (If only Derek knew what the "The Forum SA" would be penetrating....lol"

                      "I am a tremendous success… leaping from bed to bed like a mountain goat. . . .I was always convinced my father had won his spurs riding my grandmother's chambermaids." - Philippe Rothschild

                      "Working through the Wall Street firms of Kuhn, Loeb & Co., and J. P. Morgan Co., the Rothschilds financed John D. Rockefeller so that he could create the Standard Oil empire. They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman [railroads] and Andrew Carnegie [steel]. - William T. Still

                      Readers, please don't forget that the STD Oil Co. of Rockerfeller sold $20 million dollars of oil to Hitler to assist in Bombing London...the same place where all his "loyal clients" banked...WTF? No one is safe!!!

                      ..apples don't fall far from their tree....only catch is...no matter which bank you move your funds too...no buying or selling without the mark! here is wisdom what what ....Rev.

                      It's not about being positive, hopefull and having a resilient nature...as those are endless events...what we have here is a concerning finite event that has to come to an end and bring with it all those who faithfully accepted their bank account number and goodies that are on thier way...chips.

                      What must be must be....

                      Quite correct - 666 is coming -- speaking of the decaying West and the Rising East (Dragon Land) When the first beast looks to the second beast and gives praise to it, The Dragon shall rise... Rev 13v 11: "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast,...16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark ...."

                      Now why would Absa's owners(Rothschilds) be recieving the Dragon Awards from the City of London?


                      What an exciting time before us....
                      Last edited by Frankincense; 03-Feb-09, 06:24 PM.

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                      • Frankincense
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                        • Nov 2008
                        • 201

                        #12
                        @Wynn "Managers who earn fat bonusses being held personally responsible if their decisions result in dragging a bank down, same as if I drag my business down the creditors come to me."

                        I don't think we agree in understanding of modern banking... bonuses for this year are still an obsene amount, despite banks writing off billions of dollars and some going bust. Merrill Lynch will pay $6.7 billion in bonuses despite a 70% slide in its stockprice and five straight quarters of losses. That's an average $110,000 for each of its 60,900 people! CEO John Thain received a $15 million bonus when he was hired in December, and now Merrills has been swallowed by Bank of America.... please note they may not be held ACCOUNTABLE. Like I keep explaining, they are rolling out a global consolidation for humanities enslavement through transactional banking and numbers...their numbers...the number of...wisdom...Huge bonuses are a right instead of a privilege. Until mistakes are properly punished(not in t6h6i6s time), nothing will change. Many people claim one reason why bankers should be paid so much, is because of the risk of losing their jobs the very next day. Well, let me put it this way: If one has sold one's soul to the devil to do his work, instead of good things you speak of, like volunteering to be held accountable, then one deserves the earth in retrun from Satan. get it?

                        "Goldman Sachs ready to hand out £7bn salary and bonus package". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...-bail-out.html


                        Wynn, I dont think you have realised that Banks do not operate within your ideas of "sound business principles" anymore....they decide what the principle will be...as they are now consolidating and becoming invincible as the Global Financial New World Order Consolidates....as was written...

                        moving along...
                        Last edited by Frankincense; 03-Feb-09, 07:15 PM.

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                        • Dave A
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                          • May 2006
                          • 22806

                          #13
                          This one is kinda offtopic, but I can't resist mentioning it. When I read:
                          Originally posted by Francois
                          "I am a tremendous success… leaping from bed to bed like a mountain goat. . . .I was always convinced my father had won his spurs riding my grandmother's chambermaids." - Philippe Rothschild
                          The first thing that popped into my head was AIDS showers

                          This, however, is very disturbing news
                          Originally posted by msmoorad
                          by the way - do u know that Barclays of england is majority shareholder of ABSA & Nathan Rothschild owns 56 % of Barclays?
                          And Maria Ramos is going to work for ABSA, and she and Trevor Manuel are known to share a room from time to time, and Trevor is SA's minister of finance...

                          The plot thickens
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                          • Frankincense
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 201

                            #14
                            The Global Crisis Child is in our backyard already sharpening it's rows of huge bloodstained teeth getting ready to devour all our children of Africa through deception and social manipulation....Today, Tomorrow, Foreva

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                            • msmoorad
                              Bronze Member

                              • Jan 2009
                              • 179

                              #15
                              sarb

                              yes- i was about to point out that bit- Trevor Manuel & Maria Ramos -another axis of evil? they are married to each other?
                              im sure those 2 know better than most what is going on- who is pulling the strings & who is really running/controlling the country.

                              i dont know if guys have come across this anywhere:
                              PS im was trying to attach a .doc file but is bigger than the allowed size. so ill just try to copy & paste it
                              The Brotherhood at work in South Africa.

                              The terms "Brotherhood" and "global elite" are used in this document to describe collectively the people and organizations that through control of the banks and industries, through politics and through murder, are running the world as we know it today. All of the elite of this Brotherhood can be traced back to a few families. A hand full of people, in terms of the world's population, are running this planet.... (also known as Illuminati)

                              David has set this out in great detail in "The Biggest Secret" so I will not attempt to do so again. He also believes that these families and people are of reptilian origin, and there is ample evidence to support this. I will dedicate a later newsletter to this - apart from the sources that David quotes, various others exist that point to the fact that there is indeed a reptilian race o*n earth, and that some of it's echelons have interbred with specific human bloodlines. And these people form the Brotherhood or global elite.

                              This Brotherhood is involved all over the world, in overt and more often in covert operations and actions, all of which are aimed at unifying the world into a o*ne state, o*ne world government and economy. o*nce they achieve this, the masks will come off and they will come out of their hiding places, and we will all stand under a tyranny as has not been seen for tens of thousands of years.

                              The purpose of this newsletter is to show how they have been active in South Africa, and in Africa, as well as what they are currently planning. If we can form a clear idea of their plan, we can stop them, as we must.

                              That is also the reason that I chose the murder of Dr. Verwoerd as the first topic - I hope that it will show beyond a doubt that these people are active here, and have been for a long time. I am also hoping that it will show current events up in a light that shed new understanding of where we may be heading.

                              The murder of Dr. Hendrik Verwoerd - a turning point in the struggle for South Africa.

                              Background.

                              The struggle for South Africa is, even in contemporary history, an old one - some 350 years old.

                              And this struggle has not just been between white and black, but also against, and amongst, the different factions of the global Brotherhood elite.

                              First the Dutch, then the British, again the Dutch and so on, controlled the Cape, and thus the vital and lucrative sea route to the East.
                              The British furthermore had a foothold in Natal as well as in Rhodesia.

                              The first Freemasons landed in South Africa when Jan van Riebeeck landed in Cape Town harbour on April 6, 1652.

                              For the first 180 odd years, the expansion of the settlers was restricted to what can be loosely termed the Southern Cape. Whether this was by design is debatable, but the fact remains that the Great Trek of 1838 caught them unawares.

                              I believe a further surprise was the gold strike o*n the Reef. There is ample reason to believe that the Brotherhood was aware of gold having been mined in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) as long as 60 to 100 000 years ago. That is the reason that Rhodes pushed for Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) and largely ignored the land in-between there and the Cape.

                              The initial Voortrekkers moved out from under British rule because they wanted freedom. Pretorius and Retief were the first known Freemasons to join them - and o*nly about 18 months later.

                              Now consider this:
                              The initial Voortrekkers lived quite peacefully and in harmony with the black peoples of Africa.
                              Both Retief and Pretorius were wealthy farmers in the Cape, that had no reason to give up their lands and join the Trek - and yet they did.
                              Retief and Pretorius (amongst others) immediately assumed leadership positions within the Voortrekkers.
                              Immediately after this the friction with the black tribes started. Now consider what happened to the indigenous tribes in the United States, Australia and New Zealand, when the Brotherhood colonized those countries. At the battle of Blood River, Sarel Cilliers warned the burghers that no woman or child was to be touched during the ensuing pursuit, that war was o*nly to be made o*n men, and that they o*nly had to be pursued until hostilities had ceased. Cilliers was never a Freemason, but had great authority amongst the Voortrekkers, as a religious leader.

                              When the first republics were formed - Natal, The Orange Free State, the Transvaal and the smaller splinter groups like Stellaland etc. the Freemasons were already in the process of entrenching themselves in the political leadership of these republics.
                              Steyn, of the Free State, was a high order Freemason. This is where the Orange in the republic's name comes from - it refers to the house of Orange - the Dutch royal family, and highest order initiates of the Freemasons and global Brotherhood elite.
                              Far fetched?
                              Steyn signed over Kimberly to Cecil John Rhodes, who was then the British High Commissioner of the Cape, in a very shady deal, shortly before the diamond find became public knowledge. Maps were redrawn and backdated and approved by Steyn, in order that Kimberly would fall just inside the Cape Province.
                              And not just inside the Orange Free State, as was rightly the case.

                              Both the Boer Wars, but specifically the second o*ne, was about o*ne thing and o*ne thing o*nly. Control of South Africa, and specifically the gold and diamond mines.

                              Paul Kruger tried to negotiate a settlement with the British government, in order to avoid a war. Kruger was never a Freemason, but some of his senior generals were.

                              And he succeeded. Yes, that's right - he succeeded.
                              The Second Boer War should not have happened.
                              The British government sent a telegram to Lord Milner, who had succeeded Rhodes as British High Commissioner of the Cape, accepting the terms that Kruger had proposed during discussions with Milner in Bloemfontein.

                              After the negotiations in Bloemfontein, that Milner, by his own admission, had done everything in his power to derail, he, Milner, went to Britain to canvas the Freemasons in the British government in order to force a war. Milner was afraid that the British government would accept Kruger's proposal. Despite Milner's efforts, the government did accept Kruger's proposal.

                              The British government sent Milner a telegram, shortly after he arrived back in South Africa, instructing him to tell Paul Kruger that they had accepted his offer.

                              Milner, again by his own admission, held back this telegram, for several weeks, until he could force a war, through amongst other things, the Jameson raid.
                              In June of 1900, Milner admitted to Lord Roberts, the then Commander in Chief of the British forces in South Africa: "I precipitated the crisis, which was inevitable, before it was too late ……. It is not a very agreeable and, in many eyes, not a very creditable piece of business to have been largely instrumental in bringing about a big war."
                              A crisis had to be sped up before it was too late - and because it was inevitable?
                              Something seems fuzzy about this logic. Especially as we have seen that the British government of the day had accepted Kruger's proposal. The British government's sentiments can be best summed up as follows:

                              "A war in South Africa would be o*ne of the most serious wars that could possibly be waged. It would be in the nature of a Civil War. It would be a long war, a bitter war and a costly war…….it would leave behind it the embers of a strife which I believe generations would hardly be long enough to extinguish ……… to go to war with President Kruger, to force upon him reforms in the internal affairs of his state, with which we have repudiated all right of interference - that would be a course of action as immoral as it would be unwise" - Joseph Chamberlain, speaking as the Colonial Secretary in the House of Commons, May 1896.

                              Prophetic words. And yet Milner and others schemed to have Chamberlain removed from office, and convinced themselves and Britain to go to war - a war that was popularly believed would be a small and short o*ne. Something in the nature of a three month sport shoot.

                              Milner forced the war because he and the instigators o*n the Rand (Reef) were losing face and credibility and it looked as if Kruger would not o*nly be able to avoid a war, but retain the political power as well.

                              Milner was backed and influenced by none other than Wehrner, Barnato, Beit, Rhodes and Fitzpatrick (of Jock of the Bushveld fame). They in fact contributed some £ 7 000 000 to the initial war effort and the Jameson raid. (In today's terms, at 7% per annum inflation, that is some £ 6 Billion).

                              They could not shift Kruger politically, so they went to war. Even though the government of the day in Britain did not want the war - they just went ahead and did it, by putting the government in a position that it would need to "protect" British citizens and rights or loose face - and to this day, there is not a single gold mine that belongs to anybody related to the Voortrekkers or the original black people of this country. (Don't be fooled by the deal that Anglo - American struck with black empowerment groups like Naali and others - those mines were long worked out and non-profitable -they basically sold a non existent asset to these people, took the money, and let them go into liquidation, and bought the mines back at a fraction of the cost that they had sold them for.)

                              Jan Smuts was the chief legal council for Kruger, and was present during the negotiations in Bloemfontein. He wanted to make greater and more concessions to Milner, ostensibly to avoid the war.

                              And in a certain sense, this would have avoided the war - but it would also have given the Rand Lords (goldmine owners and part of the global elite) political and financial control over the Transvaal - which Kruger wanted to avoid. This desire to give so much away in terms of political freedom, was the main thing that Kruger did not like about his young State Attorney.

                              Let's look at the back ground of Smuts. He came up from the Cape as a young and bright attorney, to offer his services to Kruger a year or two before the war broke out. Kruger never really liked him, but made use of his knowledge. Why would Smuts exchange cosmopolitan Cape Town for dusty Pretoria?

                              One - Smuts was the first Rhodes Scholar out of South Africa. Rhodes Scholarships were (and are still) bestowed o*n bright young people that the Brotherhood has already, or is planning to, recruit for their purposes and cause. These students are also by and large out of Brotherhood families or bloodlines.

                              Two - there is strong evidence that Smuts was the illegitimate child of Cecil John Rhodes. Smuts' mother was in Rhodes' employ as a hand maiden, left his employ suddenly, (because she was pregnant) and married Smuts' "father" in the Cape. This according to the sister of Smuts' "father". She lived in Krige street in Silverton in Pretoria in the old family farmhouse.

                              the country after Three - Smuts, and others, had to be in position, in case the war got out of hand. Smuts fought with the Boers, and fought bravely. But he was one of the main figures involved in talking the Boers into signing the Peace of Vereeniging. The bitter Boers were not keen to surrender, at all. They had already lost just about everything that they had, including women and children in the concentration camps, so they wanted to carry on fighting till the bitter end. They had nothing to lose, except their freedom. Yet Smuts and Botha, amongst others, talked them into signing their freedom away.

                              Four - Smuts was a known Freemason, of high order.

                              At the time of the peace, there were some 14 000 Boers left in the veld, and there were 350 000 (three hundred and fifty thousand) British soldiers in South Africa.

                              It has recently transpired that the British government could not have financially afforded the war for more than another month or so. According to documents released recently under the British Secrecy Act (which allows documents to be kept secret for long periods of time) the war cost Britain between £ 191 000 000 and £ 200 000 000 - in those days. That is some £ 170 billion in today's terms.

                              More than the cost of the Second World War (to Britain) and some 40 to 50 times the estimated total cost of the Gulf War.

                              Could this be why Smuts, that was in the veld as a bitter ender, suddenly started advocating peace so fervently?

                              Another role player was Louis Botha. Botha let several opportunities to win the war, by defeating Generals White and Buller, "slip" through his fingers in Natal.

                              Guess who were known Freemasons? And guess who got to run the Peace of Vereeniging? When Smuts was ousted by Botha's party, Smuts was "given" the Standerton constituency - Botha simply did not contest the by-election. This allowed Smuts to climb back into power later.

                              They were in fact never in opposition, but two sides of the same coin - as evidenced by the coalition government formed by them around the time of the First World war. A government that unpopularly involved South Africa o*n the side of Britain in the war - a decision that led to the rebellion of 1914.

                              For a more complete history, I can recommend "The Boer War" by Thomas Pakenham. Note specifically the quotations from Milner's diary.
                              Especially an entry about how circumspect he had to be in promoting the war, which reads something to the effect of: "one can o*nly entrust this agenda to the highest initiates" (The quote may not be exact, but the reference to "initiates" is accurate.) Packenham never picked up o*n this, but it is obvious Milner was referring to Freemason initiates, given the whole history of the war.

                              Another aspect of this war, that is not widely known, and that deserves some serious attention, is that some 14 000 blacks died in the concentration camps, in the sieges and in the veld with the Boers.
                              A lot of blacks went to war with the Boers, to keep the British out of South Africa, and a lot of them died in the camps alongside Boer woman and children, whom they loyally tried to support in their suffering. It was also mainly black people that fed and sheltered the bitter enders after Kitchener had literally burnt the country to the ground.

                              After this, the global elite, through the British Crown, had control over South Africa and the gold and mineral wealth. one simple example of this total control is the Diamond act. De Beers, and therefore the elite, own every single diamond in this country. Even if you pick it up on your farm - it belongs to them - and it is law. This is also one of the few, if not the only countries in the world where you need a license to buy and sell diamonds for purposes other than personal jewelry.

                              And they maintained control until Afrikaner Nationalism came to the fore as a strong political force. This was a further unforeseen event, from the perspective of the Brotherhood.

                              One of the first things that they tried to do was to stop South Africa from becoming a republic. When this failed, they started fostering political unrest.

                              Don't misunderstand me. I am not trying to evaluate the right and wrong in the history of this country as far as amongst other things, apartheid is concerned. I am trying to give the picture from the perspective of the Brotherhood elite. And to them it was never about apartheid or freedom or anything else. It was, and still is, purely and simply about control of this country, continent and the world.

                              This is where Verwoerd came into the picture. After the Boer War and up to 1948 and more specifically Verwoerd, the Brotherhood had South Africa pretty much where they wanted.

                              Verwoerd was their next Kruger.

                              The murder of Verwoerd.

                              There was in fact a previous attempt on Verwoerd's life - on April 9, 1960 to be exact. The would be assassin in this case was an Englishman, David Beresford Pratt. Pratt shot Verwoerd in the head at close range, but Verwoerd survived the attack.

                              Unconfirmed reports exist that Pratt had been influenced, by MI6(British Intelligence), since the late 1950's to make an attempt o*n Verwoerd's life.

                              If these reports could be confirmed, they would fit into the picture and would certainly indicate that the Brotherhood-elite had prior knowledge of the attempt (first) on Verwoerd's life.

                              Let's take a look at the following events, also taking place in 1960, and around the time of the first attempt on Verwoerd's life:
                              The Sharpeville protest and ensuing massacre, a month before Pratt's attempt. This protest was organised, instigated and funded by the African-American Institute - the front organisation for the global elite's Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) which was linked to the CIA and Oppenheimer. Why they were willing to expend innocent black people for their own agenda will become clear shortly.
                              There were several other marches and protests country wide, after the Sharpeville march, instigated and funded by the same African-American Institute.
                              Country wide strikes took place.
                              Sanctions and pressure, through the Oppenheimer and Rupert newspapers, on the Nationalist government was stepped up.
                              Paul Sauer, a minister in Verwoerd's cabinet made a speech shortly after the attempt o*n Verwoerd's life, to the effect that a more moderate approach was needed and that apartheid had to go. He was lauded as the man "to lead South Africa out of the swamp" by the Oppenheimer and Rupert newspapers.

                              The only thing that went wrong, was that Verwoerd survived.

                              See if this makes sense:

                              You have prior knowledge that there is going to be an attempt o*n Verwoerd's life. If you can then create an atmosphere of political unrest, protest marches (preferably with the loss of black lives), create additional pressure by means of sanctions, sliding stock prices, country wide strikes etc, and the attempt on Verwoerd's life is successful, you would have a country about to slide into total anarchy.

                              Now you have a leader, the Freemason Paul Sauer, to step forward from the ranks of the Nationalists and preach a more moderate approach that would satisfy the world, and make all the bad things go away.

                              You would have a situation where the National Party would be leaderless, in a country o*n the verge of anarchy
                              Last edited by Dave A; 05-Feb-09, 03:25 PM. Reason: clean out of office tags
                              A “conspiracy theory” no longer means an event explained by a conspiracy. Instead, it now means any explanation, or even a fact, that is out of step with the government’s explanation and that of its media pimps.

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