Valid COC?

[Sparks]

How about some thoughts on this:
*use link further down*
I want to help a youngster but do not know who/where he can contact the correct person, he is in Alberton.
All comments will be appreciated.
Thanks

[murdock]

i cannot load the link...it gives a picture error message.

[Sparks]

Sorry about that, it is a Large PDF, I will change the format.

[Sparks]

A sample of what the COC was issued for:



That is cabtire feeding other socket outlets.

[Sparks]

The outbuildings which have been excluded insidently do have power.

[Dave A]

I don't know how anyone else is going, but I got gateway timeouts trying to download from those links.

Sparks sent me the pdf - I've got it down to 300dpi and it's now 993KB available at https://www.theforumsa.co.za/documen...-scan-tfsa.pdf

Hope that helps.

I'll pass it by my wireman for some feedback too, but I did notice a few things that surprised me:

Why would you use a calculated PSC on a single phase supply? Use a PSC tester for crying out loud.
How can you issue a COC on an installation where your PSC is higher than your short-circuit/withstand rating?
Section 3 - description of installation... Ja, about that one

[AndyD]

Single phase with clockwise rotation is already setting off alarm bells. Also no geyser......?

[Dave A]

Single phase with clockwise rotation is already setting off alarm bells.

I had the same thought and checked what we're doing on our COC's - and we're doing the same thing. Apparently it comes from a "how to complete the electrical COC form" session done by the ECA I sent my top staff to a couple of years back.

[Sparks]

Thanks Dave, I usually download not upload so I am green on that. Will educate myself for next time though.
All valid coments so far. As per "notes" althought the fixed appliance circuits are indicated on the COC, the actual appliance is not covered. The circuits still have to be indicated and must comply.
I am hoping someone can give me details of where to report this turd.
I am not even sure where exactly the house is, looks like the guy who signed off is not either.

[Sparks]

Single phase with clockwise rotation is already setting off alarm bells. Also no geyser......?

Maybe they can prove it to us?

[Dave A]

I think I'm going to bomb those links to those monster files and save everyone some serious bandwidth, Sparks.

That is cabtire feeding other socket outlets.

Here's that picture



And yes, now I understand why Sparks is getting hot under the collar on this one.

[Sparks]

Thanks Dave, you certainly are on the ball. Much appreciated.

[AndyD]

Single phase with clockwise rotation is already setting off alarm bells. Also no geyser......?

Maybe they can prove it to us?

Prove which bit, the single phase rotation or the no geyser?

We always mark the rotation as not applicable if it's a single phase supply. I've never had any guidance to say we should do otherwise but not working in the domestic field we only issue maybe one COC a month so maybe it's slipped through the net. I would carry on doing this unless someone can show me firstly how to determine the rotation of a single phase supply and secondly a good reason to worry about it.

I've never seen a domestic property that doesn't have a geyser. Also if there's a gas water heater there's more regs such as the cage for the bottle requires earth bonding and lightning protection plus they still need the earth service bond to the water pipework.

[Sparks]

The rotation of 1 phase around itself
The geyser is still there
I have just heard that there are another two powered-up DBs'

[Sparks]

I was hoping there is an ECA member in the Gauteng area with a contact number for someone there. Here is another sample:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27556811/100_2272.JPG