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    Quote Originally Posted by tec0 View Post
    but that will not stop them to find ways to import inferior goods from dodgy origins.
    AFAIK Walmart isn't famous for peddling inferior goods. They do have a reputation for competitive pricing and a no-quibble return policy though.

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    Aren't a great many of the products found on our shelves imported from China - the very country which has the worst reputation for less than savoury labour practices?
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    The documentary that I downloaded about Walmart showed a picture of an anti-union company that basically feeds on welfare as company benefits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tec0 View Post
    The documentary that I downloaded about Walmart showed a picture of an anti-union company that basically feeds on welfare as company benefits?
    Well I'm afraid that specific tactic will not quite work here in SA, as governmental benefits are nearly non-existent...

    I would like to see how Wallmart's competitive pricing structure will affect the pricing of other retail giants... Any idea of when this will be happening?

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    I saw on ENews at lunch time that apparently Massmart have been given approval "subject to conditions".

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    I see there are two stories on News 24 today relating to the Walmart hearing - Commission changes tune & SA could violate trade deals.

    I think the greatest concern here should be the way the Competition Tribunal is being used as a political tool.

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    Exclamation The cost of globalisation

    Globalisation is good! At least that is what the business schools tell us.
    Funny that all these business gurus hail from the good old USA. I used to believe this, until I started adding up the numbers.

    Have you noticed how the corner cafes and mom-and-pop neighbourhood businesses are disappearing? SME's are still the biggest providers of employment in this country - not the big corporates! Although a little more expensive than the superstores, they are making a substantial contribution to our economy. You are served with a smile by a member of your own community. The guy at the hardware store could give good DIY advice and would recommend a carpenter, painter etc... Now you shop at a faceless warehouse!

    Is it better to go to the mall and buy everything you want from the superstores? Considering that you have to drive there, pay for parking (or a car guard) get frustrated at the tills etc etc .... is it still cheaper?

    How many factories have closed due to globalisation? Our non-existent textile industry is a prime example. The machines and equipment have been sold to Pakistan and Bangladesh and the skills are lost forever. The retrenched workers have become a burden to the state which now has to raise more taxes from a smaller tax base.
    Consider the cost when next you buy that cheap imported item!

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    You should show this to the unions when they next ask for their yearly increase. One of the reasons we can not sell locally or even export, is because our manufactured cost is too high due to the main part of high labour costs and inefficiencies due to labour related problems.
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    i found this interesting article about Walmarts business practices.
    source: http://www.openpr.com/news/175439/Ar...ed-Update.html

    openPR) - South Africa has been warned.
    A global coalition of organized labor converged this week on Pretoria, South Africa -- where a government office known as the Competition Tribunal is considering a mega-acquisition of MassMart by Wal-Mart that will reboot the retail landscape of an entire continent. MassMart owns roughly 290 stores in 13 African nations, and has been described as "the perfect African entry vehicle" for Wal-Mart.
    Queued up against the plan is the Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU), in alliance with the UNI Global Union, a worldwide umbrella union representing 20 million workers. They are all part of an Anti-Wal-Mart Coalition which includes the South African Commercial, Catering and Allied Workers' Union (Saccawu), and the South African Clothing and Textile Workers' Union (Sactwu)

    One of the most stark statements before the tribunal was presented by Sofia Scasserra, an economic advisor to the Argentine Federation of Commerce and Service Workers (FAECYS). According to Scasserra, Wal-Mart's worst impact was not on wages -- but on the nation's supply chain -- resulting in "a detrimental effect on the business middle class."
    Instead of buying products, Wal-Mart de Argentina offers a "sale spot" to suppliers -- who bear the cost of unsold merchandise. "In the event the product sells," Scasserra explained, "the supplier gets paid, but if the product does not sell, then it was deemed never to be Wal-Mart's to begin with, and therefore the supplier bears the full adverse effect of the unsold stock... Wal-Mart does not take ownership of the goods until the product is sold." Scasserra said many companies were forced to close, especially in the food sector, where products are perishable. Some merchants were forced to sell on consignment, putting "immense pressure" on the supplier if goods don't sell.

    Wal-Mart also forces supplies to wait at least three months to get paid, and to make matters worse, Wal-Mart uses a trade agreement between China and Brazil to import Asian goods, and then imports the merchandise from Brazil into Argentina protected from tariffs.
    All these strategies, said Scasserra, "makes local producers unable to compete." Local apparel makers in Argentina watched as shirts, jeans and underwear poured in from China to Brazil, and then into Argentina through the tariff reduction agreement.
    Even when Wal-Mart uses local vendors, "the suppliers are victims of constant pressure to lower the price of their products," Scasserra noted, "with the threat that the company will be better prices by bringing the merchandise from Buenos Aires."
    In the case of home appliances, Wal-Mart would force its suppliers to give the retailer discounted and free merchandise, "and it advertises 'unbeatable deals', with the cost of these deals being forcibly absorbed by their suppliers."
    Scasserra cited one case where Wal-Mart offered a discount on air conditioners -- without even consulting the supplier. "The first notification that the supplier receives is when they receive a check for less money than they were expecting," she told the Tribunal.
    All these anti-supplier policies mean that "small producers are often left out of the equation," Scasserra explained. Wal-Mart cannot be counted on to support "a local sustainable supply chain," she concluded.
    Labor relations with many of Argentine's unions were described as "troubled." In one case, Wal-Mart began outsourcing its union workers by laying them off, and hiring new workers from subcontract agencies.
    Scasserra advised the South African Tribunal to force Wal-Mart stores to locate in "the outskirts of the city" to protect the "small neighborhood traders and their jobs." She also advised that "group collective bargaining be imposed as a condition," a sort of "centralized table" where workers could bargain with the huge retailer, rather than face fragmented negotiations.
    Finally, Scasserra recommended that the policy of allowing a merchant to force the producer to be responsible for unsold products should be banned. Wal-Mart should be obligated to purchase the goods up front, and be limited to 30 days credit.
    The American experience with Wal-Mart was also heard in Pretoria. "We have witnessed the devastating effect that the Wal-Mart model has upon small businesses, suppliers, and communities," said Michael Bride of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW). Bride urged the tribunal to "place the needs of South Africa's citizens at the center of its deliberations and ensure that if Wal-Mart does enter the country, that it does so on a basis that will promote economic development rather than destroy it."
    For all its high-toned statements about sustainability, Wal-Mart's backroom practices in Argentina should be vivid enough to scare away any nation tempted by the "live better" motto. It shouldn't be too difficult for a 'Competition Tribunal' in South Africa to recognize the MassMart/Wal-Mart merger is the beginning of the end of retailing competition on the African continent.
    At least no one can say they were not warned.

    Al Norman is the founder of Sprawl-Busters, and the author of The Case Against Wal-Mart.

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    theres too many pros & cons.
    i would like to be able to buy the stuff WalMart can offer at the prices they can offer but i cant help feeling guilty after reading more about how they do business.
    but we SA consumers have had to pay high prices all along, when will we get a break?

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