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    Hi All,

    Anyone has any taughts or ideas to share on a CCTV system for a fast food store?

    I see Makro has DIY Vivanco systems?

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    How many camera's do you want to put up, and what type - i.e. IP based camera's or normal COAX based ones? And for how long do u need the footage?
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    I am looking at min 8 cams, max 16 cams. COAX based most probably with footage of between 4-6 weeks ? Does this make any sense at all?

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    Makes sense. you're going to need some large hard drives for that amount of cameras and footage for 6 weeks if you go for a pc based system.
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    I hear they have systems that only record when you have movement or you can set them to record during certain times only to save space ?

    Which is better a PC based system or a stand alone DVR ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singhms View Post
    Hi All,

    Anyone has any taughts or ideas to share on a CCTV system for a fast food store?

    I see Makro has DIY Vivanco systems?


    I dont intend on advertising, but the systems you are refering to can be done in PC or Embedded based... Here is a bit of advice though... Forget about the units sold at macro and builders and so forth, there is no support, quality is matched by price and you arnt going to ge anywhere near 6 weeks of recording as those units work on 250GB IDE drives, IDE is not available on the market anymore and the recording compression is not great...

    You need a specialised system that you know you have backup and suppotr on and atleast 1 - 1.5 TB worth of storage space.

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    Quini is right.

    IDE Hard Drive based systems are slower than SATA based systems, which affect video quality. They're also outdated and replacement spares (especially the HDD) could be hard to come by in 2 or 3 year's time. Many PC suppliers may still stock IDE HDD's but some of the larger suppliers don't have them anymore.

    The advantage of a PC based system is that you can add more channels later if you need to. BUT, you'll need a nice fast machine with decent RAM (4GB to begin with). CCTV cards can be added, as long as you have extra PCI / PCI-e / PCI-x (depending on the cards you get) slots you have available.
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    I run 3 bullet type IP IR Wireless cams with motion detection in our complex. ( Quite a bit of traffic) I can get about 8 weeks on a 300 Gb drive.
    What I have learned though is that if you record video as opposed to snapshots it uses your HDD quite fast.
    A typical motion video ( AVI ) file is about 2 to 10 MBs as opposed to a series of snapshots @ 15 to 20 Kb / each snapshot. ( Depends on how long the motion is detected. )
    Snapshots can be set as well, to say 6/sec or 10 to 15 per minute...........all depends on what you want.
    Google the following software program and check it out: Active Webcam v11.5
    Just a tip............do not download from PY Soft site directly, the download does not run all the way. ( Program is free but you require a license to remove pop ups. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quini View Post
    I dont intend on advertising, but the systems you are refering to can be done in PC or Embedded based...
    Hi Quini, I would like you to advertise! Out of interest how much would you have quoted for the job that Mr Singh had in mind?
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    Word of advice. Get a demo on a similar setup to what you decide on. Chances is that your expectations is going to be higher than what you get. Facial recognition is very important. If you can not ID a stranger, it is useless. To ID workers is easier, as you know them, but someone else, looking at the footage, might argue. Then, frames per second. If you want to see the exact action, make sure you get 20fps at least, not on paper, but in reality. IP based systems is notorious for lacking in these aspects. The specs is great, but the network can kill it.
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