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    WINDOWS XP vs WINDOWS VISTA

    I heard of people complaining about Windows Vista. I personally had Windows XP and should have stayed with it. I feel that Vista is not a friendly programme for my computer. Takes up ram and refuses to shut down. My computer at work which has Vista need to be shut down twice at the end of every day.

    Whats your view?

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    Check out the similar threads list below. Vista sure has come up in discussion more than a few times. I think the consensus somewhere along the line was that Vista basic is a real PITA and ultimate was just fine.
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    Well personally I feel that windows 98 was really stable then came windows ME “facelift” and the world started to learn what it means when you want your software to look pretty. From Windows 95 to windows 2000 the systems felt and look the same but from a technical point of view it was a world apart.

    Then there was Windows XP Professional it was as stable as Windows NT and as easy to use as windows 98 but it looked cool and yes all the yummy new programs and application capabilities gave it the ultimate edge in OS design and simplicity. SP 1, 2 and 3 give it the upgrades to dance with heavy new hardware and then it got better with the 64-bit addition and blew your mind! Microsoft knew it was as stable as the earth’s orbit and as powerful as Hercules on steroids. However it was not to be because Microsoft was developing an “all new” OS...

    Come to think of it, Vista’s birth was long and painful and in the end you had an attractive OS... but that is all... You had blue-screens and the infamous “dead screen” not to mention the compatibility problems... Even Vista ultimate suffered and the SP’s didn’t help at all.

    Now there is the new trendy Windows 7, it looks good and it is not resource happy. I think windows 7 just might be the answer to our pressing OS problems.

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    Windows 7 is a great improvemtn over Windows Vista. It runs much better than XP as well.

    BUT, do yourself a favour and take a look at Linux. Download Ubuntu and run it from the CD, and give it a go.
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    Ubuntu is good...

    However, the fact is “software Support” I am not the only one with a lot of MS Software that I had to purchase at premium prices! Yes all those Office products, Nero 9 and let’s not forget the Games!

    Now if Linux is serious about taking over the OS seen then they need to address these problems. Fact is I have a lot of small “MS” only applications running on my computer and I need them all.

    So for me to go over to Linux at this point in time will be a mistake because “Nothing I own” will work with it... Not to mention the hardware drivers that I will have to download! This transition will not only be costly but it will also mean that I must re-educate myself to use my computer properly.

    So I really do hope that windows 7 are the saviour at the moment...

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    due to the progression of components, OSes do tend to get heavier on the resources as they move along. Vista had a few excellent additions, but not enough to justify the huge hike in resource usage. In some ways, vista was slightly ahead of its time (as can be seen now with windows 7 coming out and everyone loving it.)

    a few of the issues that can be mentioned:
    your copy of vista was useless unless it was ultimate or business.
    your computer needs a graphics card and at minimum 2GB of RAM to run vista properly.
    "vista ready" logos on PCs that weren't even good enough to run XP properly.

    shutting down vista twice? that's an interesting issue. sure you aren't hibernating first? The operating system doesn't magically turn the PC on.

    Generally though, Vista was necessary. Tech companies around the world have often come back strongest after a good harsh screw up. examples would be nvidia's 7 series graphics cards, which were glitchy, after which they produced those absolutely dominating 8800's (amongst the other 8 series cards), AMD is on the rise after their sub-par efforts in their CPU range (although that has alot to do with them buying ATI).

    In the end though, I've enjoyed vista. I'm still using it, actually. both my work PC and home PC run it (Our company IT specialist was most puzzled when I told him to put vista on). There are, naturally a few little bugs and issues, but most of the time it's with software running, rather than the OS itself. I often find that people have a problem with software, and attribute it to the OS, rather than going to the creators of the software and asking them what's up with that.

    ubuntu is good for business use.

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    I think vista was the most time wasting effort to have ever invaded our computers. If I could bill Bill for all the hours spent trying to get stuff to work with vista I am sure I would not need to work or worry about another computer ever again.

    To unleash an OS that never looked like it had ever been properly tested on unsuspecting customers, forcing it onto new hardware and then telling us all how fantastic it was and we were to blame for all its faults was just asking for the biggest BS award of the century.

    Sure other software was also to blame - Quickbooks was one, who told MS to stick their compatibility programme where it hurts - but then they soon had to scramble as they started losing market share as well. But I still think MS was the chief culprit and their guilt is evident through there not being a vista 2.

    Why Linux hasnt grabbed huge market share while this debacle was going on? I don't know, but it seems as if they do not have the total goods either or else they have lost out on a golden opportunity. Windows 7 looks to close any competition down again and MS hold the fort.
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    I don't know much about operating systems even though I have been involved with the computer since 1966. It started with a punch card machine, which by the way, is still in use today.

    I can tell you this, since the inception of MS, when they ruled out DOS, which is also still a part of the operating systems today, there has been some sort of bug in the system. But the same can be said for Pastel when they bring out a new package.

    I have never had a problem with VISTA. I have seen Windows 7. It is impressive. It also has an extra 35gb appetite just for the operating system. You cannot upgrade. You have to backup your hard drive completely. And guess what, once you restore your packages you have to re instate your license for MICROSOFT OFFICE as they don't transfer with the backup.

    Every system has its problems. We all have our different tastes. Don't run the system down just because you have your own opinion. We have ours and we are happy with our packages.

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    Well backing your stuff up is one way to do it. I will always recommend you look at a kind of backup system that allows making ghosts of the OS and your software. With this ghost can always restore to the point where everything IS registered and ready to go. From this point you can do a file restore session this is more for your personal files and is a different process but most MS OS’s have the ability to do this kind of backup and restore effortlessly

    This Aside, we are paying for MS’s mistakes... The truth is in MS pricing system. Just look at Microsoft Projects and you will see that it will cost you between R10000 to R12000 that rules out any kind of training impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tec0 View Post
    Well backing your stuff up is one way to do it. I will always recommend you look at a kind of backup system that allows making ghosts of the OS and your software. With this ghost can always restore to the point where everything IS registered and ready to go. From this point you can do a file restore session this is more for your personal files and is a different process but most MS OS’s have the ability to do this kind of backup and restore effortlessly

    This Aside, we are paying for MS’s mistakes... The truth is in MS pricing system. Just look at Microsoft Projects and you will see that it will cost you between R10000 to R12000 that rules out any kind of training impossible.
    so then why not find an open source alternative, or use MS excel? I had to do a project where we contrasted excel and project. excel was able to perform the necessary functions, but took a lot longer and didn't feel as flexible. When you honestly think about it, they have to market it at a price most say is reasonable. Otherwise everyone would find an alternative.

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