Workmans Compensation Earnings return form

[Dave A]

With the return of earnings for Workmans Compensation due by 31st March, if you haven't received a return of earnings form yet, it's available *outdated link removed - updated below*.

If you can get the Department of Labour website to respond, that is. It seems to be taking strain today.

[Ivan]

Did you know ?

If you within the buidling and construction industry, you do not have to be registered with the Compensation Fund, You may register with FEM at the same cost.

[Marie Stieger]

I tried to download return of earnings form as you said but it said it's not available.

Regards
Marie

[Dave A]

This is the latest available that I've managed to find, but it's for 2010. I'm saving it for a hail mary shot at filing a return if there isn't more news about this year's return by the beginning of next week.

[Marie Stieger]

This is the latest available that I've managed to find, but it's for 2010. I'm saving it for a hail mary shot at filing a return if there isn't more news about this year's return by the beginning of next week.

Thank you Dave

I also downloaded this old form but don't know if they will accept it because it seems to me that they will use any excuse to make us pay the penalties and interest for late submissions. When I phoned this yesterday to querrie when I will receive my form this black lady said they are not ready yet. So I asked her is it still due the the 31st of March she said yes. So I asked her if I will be charged interest and penalties for late submissions because it will be because they are so slack and she said yes. She said it's up to me to phone them again on the 26st and ask if the forms are ready. What a cheek! I think we must all just refuse to pay any interest and penalties for late submissions!

[Ivan]

Hi All

Yes its that time of the year again, yes no new return of earnings forms has been sent out as yet, as according to some officials at the Fund they looking at rolling out the new system on the 17th of April similar to e-filing, I doubt it will happen, but lets wait and see.
Yes penalties will be charged at 10%, irrespective as the system calculates the penalty , totally unfair I know, but thats the Fund for you.
Im almost certain the 2011 return will differ from the 2010, so rather not send that form in.

I will try and obtain more info from the Fund later today and will post accordingly.

[Ivan]

Ok just got off the phone with a contact at the Fund, and they have applied to the Comissioner for extension for deadlines for submissions.it seems they are still waiting to confirm the wage ceiling , which is strange as we have received the maximum wage ceiling already (R292031.00 per employee per annum).

As soon as I receive a copy of the new return, will post a link.

[Dave A]

From the Return of Earnings question thread:

We have numerous problems with WCC and it's no use to object against anything as they don't correct anything or waiver penalties & interest like SARS. I have the 2011 final 2012 provisional W.As.8 in Excel format if anybody is interested...(and can tell me how to upload the doc).. but it would be no use to complete and post to them, as they have changed to a new system and if you don't have your new ref number... they might just end up losing your form ...

I contacted Christel and am delighted to report the 2011 return form in Excel format is attached below.

I suggest take heed of Christel's warning about the new reference numbers, but at least if you haven't got your new number yet and are going to call Workmans Compensation you'll be able to ask for your new number while you're about it.

[Rebel]

We all now the program SAP (definition is deep black hole to deposit all your money in) - well the Compensation Fund installed that some 8 months ago - need I say that everybody knows that it takes a little longer (some years) to get it working.

[sandyb]

From the Return of Earnings question thread:



I contacted Christel and am delighted to report the 2011 return form in Excel format is attached below.

I suggest take heed of Christel's warning about the new reference numbers, but at least if you haven't got your new number yet and are going to call Workmans Compensation you'll be able to ask for your new number while you're about it.

Dave, thanks for posting the new form. Not sure how you managed that but a BIG thank you. Now at least I can submit my return on time (and still be charged a late submission penalty - like last year). Here's hoping though. This time I will get proof that I've delivered / mailed it to them on time.



Good luck all!

Ciao

[InTouch]

Form Removed?

With the return of earnings for Workmans Compensation due by 31st March, if you haven't received a return of earnings form yet, it's available here.

If you can get the Department of Labour website to respond, that is. It seems to be taking strain today.

Hey there, thank you so much for sending this info. However, when I went to the site to get the form - it seems to have been removed by you know who. Form not available :-)

[Dave A]

However, when I went to the site to get the form - it seems to have been removed by you know who. Form not available :-)

The form you need for this year is at post 8 here

[IMHO]

Thanks for the form Dave.

Question. 1. Why does it say part 2? What is part 1?
2. How does one pay this?
3. What is this about a new number?

[Christel]

Hello All,
I have just contacted Celia Coetzer from a company called "Workers Compensation Assistance CC", they deal with all IOD claims etc. She confirmed that the forms have not even been printed yet.. therefore not posted (what the frikkadel?)... She attended a roadshow where the Commissioner informed them that all forms will be available mid April - electronically. She also says that the Excel form I made available to you all will not be accpeted, as all forms should have a bar code on...
She is busy chasing them up re the penalties... will keep in contact - I will post on this site as soon as I have confirmation from her (good or bad news).
Yours in the struggle,
christel

[Dave A]

Yours in the struggle

Tell me about it
I suggest the very least Workmans Compensation could do is give an official announcement on the issue on the DoL website...

Thanks for all your efforts, Christel.