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    Freedom for all in 1994 - Are we all really free?

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    Yes it is, but finding the right people to do a job is also becoming harder and harder, therefore there is def work but not the right skills to match the work.
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    According to the simple defination of freedom, we are not free. We a mentally free, knowing that you are is nothing if you unable practice your freeness. Whats makes man to do what he like is dertemined by his wealthy. Ths goes to say political freedom can't free a man, its only economic freedom can rescue a man. Here in SA we granted only political freedom in CODESAs, that freedom we have is called pseudo-independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mqmbomvu View Post
    According to the simple defination of freedom, we are not free. We a mentally free, knowing that you are is nothing if you unable practice your freeness. Whats makes man to do what he like is dertemined by his wealthy. Ths goes to say political freedom can't free a man, its only economic freedom can rescue a man. Here in SA we granted only political freedom in CODESAs, that freedom we have is called pseudo-independent.
    You correct in saying that political freedom does not really mean freedom until there is economic freedom.

    But let’s take a step back and look at “political” freedom first. The white minority does not have political freedom in SA and are heavily suppressed by law. The ANC (Even the president) publically incites violence against white people. This whilst the white murder rate is far above all other races, and there is a 95%+ Black on White murder rate

    Back to economic freedom, the incompetent corrupt ANC alliance will eventually destroy industry... no chance of economic freedom to anybody then.

    Freedom, both economic and political, is under severe threat from the ANC – an ANC who has turned its back on its foundation of non racialism a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mqmbomvu View Post
    According to the simple defination of freedom, we are not free. We a mentally free, knowing that you are is nothing if you unable practice your freeness. Whats makes man to do what he like is dertemined by his wealthy. Ths goes to say political freedom can't free a man, its only economic freedom can rescue a man. Here in SA we granted only political freedom in CODESAs, that freedom we have is called pseudo-independent.
    To create your own freedom is up to you - to get an education - to get qualified in anything that you are capable of doing - to get good employment and to grow yourself to create your own freedom. You cannot expect freedom without doing something about it yourself. The people around you or the government can only create freedom up to a certain point - the rest is up to you.


    Whats makes man to do what he like is dertemined by his wealth
    And what does "wealth" mean ? And how would you say you go about getting wealth ?
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    There is no such thing as freedom. There are always constraints and rules......Nothing, nowhere, ever...is totally free. There is no such thing as economic freedom either...you more you get the more you want.

    Freedom, my friend, is a state of mind...just like happiness and love...
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    Yes it is true that the white minority their political freedom has been violated; that violation has began frm 1994. So, ths thing has swang frm one side to another. Before 1994, it was majority black were crying of freedom, during that time only white minority enjoyed both econ & political freeness. I agree again that ths ANC is destrubting all freedom we fougth by corruption ectc. To one who say freedom dertemined by yourself i can't agree. This is because i believe that psychological awarenes about things such as justice,freedom or moral issues is nothing if you know then but unable to do practically. Therefore, again i can say it is the wealth that dertemine ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mqmbomvu View Post
    According to the simple defination of freedom, we are not free. We a mentally free, knowing that you are is nothing if you unable practice your freeness. Whats makes man to do what he like is dertemined by his wealthy. Ths goes to say political freedom can't free a man, its only economic freedom can rescue a man. Here in SA we granted only political freedom in CODESAs, that freedom we have is called pseudo-independent.
    Standing in a queue and waiting for handouts is not freedom. Freedom is the ability to make choices. The choices that you make now will determine your future. Choosing an education instead of demonstrating and burning public buildings. Choosing the right career path and not just a job. Choosing not to support and harbour thieves and fraudsters. Choosing the right leaders. Real leaders who can serve their communities and lead by example, not cadres deployed because they are friends with number 1. Choosing a government that will not enrich themselves at the expense of the people.

    Having freedom comes with responsibility. Responsibility for your country and your fellow South Africans. That means that you will fight corruption, fight bad government or poor service delivery, fight poverty and the undermining of our economy by illegal, cheap, shitty imports. You will pay your taxes and do your part in building this country. You will protect jobs by resisting unrealistic demands by trade unions and politicians who are the only ones who benefit from strikes. You will assist in building and not breaking down.

    Brick by brick we can build this country if everyone pulls together. Only if we have a strong and growing economy will we be able to spread the wealth. Wealth does not mean that two or three politicians or connected crooks have all the money. A country's wealth is measured by the well being of all its people, not just the politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mqmbomvu View Post
    Therefore, again i can say it is the wealth that dertemine ability.
    Mqmbomvu you are possibly the tip of an iceberg that is realizing the idea of requiring wealth to progress, the next stage is to realize that the 80 odd billion that has been corrupted out of the annual fiscus by cANCer politicians and cronies is actually the wealth that you require to progress.
    If you take Nkandla alone at R250million it could have built 5,000 RDP houses @ R50,000 each, that would have given at least 30,000 maybe more people a roof over their heads and that is just one glaring instance.
    Now take the R80 billion? how many schools, clinics, hospitals, colleges, university bursaries, small business start ups, etc could that have been used for in one year instead of R1million cars for blue light brigades and on and on???

    Wake up! the government is stealing your future progress while you sit and complain.
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    Wynn' i get your point. I agree that this economic freedom already arrived but the impediments now is our black fellow brothers and sisters who delay our success by corruption.

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