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    Exposed wiring in home bar lighting

    Any bright ideas of the best way to deal with this?

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    What is wrong there ? Can you have the 220v wire exposed ?
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    If you can access it without the use of a tool then it's a no-no.

    Replace the fitting for one that's designed to be used standalone would be the easiest option, it's a classic example of the wrong fitting for the location it's in. You could fabricate some sort of cover from a conduit box or similar but it's a lot of messing around especially if there's multiple fittings. You could make a perspex diffuser that encloses the entire fitting as well.

    Is it on a plug by any chance or is it permanently wired?
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    It's wired in. There are multiple fittings. And getting it all onto a plug top would be a mission too.

    What ticks me off a bit is the cabinets are premade this way, apparently. Obviously the manufacturer doesn't understand the regs. The problem is just so avoidable.
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    There are no bare wires or contacts. What is the problem? Might not be to some regulation, but where is the risk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyD View Post
    If you can access it without the use of a tool then it's a no-no.
    The reg says that it shall not be possible to touch any live part within arms reach with the standard finger test. If no conductor is exposed then wouldn't this be within regulations?

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    I'd interpret 'live part' to include a lamp holder that's not classed as double insulated or is ELV. I think if it means any part that is an integral component of an electrical circuit and not exclusively concerned with live conductors. Maybe one of the domestic electricians will confirm.

    Also there's no strain relief or containment on the wiring.

    Typically this kind of item would come with a plug on it in which case it wouldn't be a problem for a CoC because it would be classed as an integral part of the electrical instalation and portable appliance testing isn't mandatory.

    Is the cupboard mobile and freestanding Dave or is it secured to a wall or built-in?
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    It's a fixed unit.

    The wiring you can see is 1.5mm housewire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyD View Post
    I'd interpret 'live part' to include a lamp holder that's not classed as double insulated or is ELV. I think if it means any part that is an integral component of an electrical circuit and not exclusively concerned with live conductors. Maybe one of the domestic electricians will confirm.
    Andy thanks for the explanation. Forgetting the strain relief, if the appliance had a earthing terminal (Class 1 appliance) it would then be a legal installation?

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    Simple, Maizey plastics, clear perspex a little heat and 2 screws or just buy cheap plastic bulkheads and remove the clear covers and secure using the holes on the cover.

    If it is for your own house, take them out throw them in the dustbin and fit led strip lights.

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