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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes14 View Post
    A lot of people think he died in June already.
    Funny how he has not actually appeared in public since then.
    Now all of a sudden while there is a lot of unwanted publicity on the etols, he miraculously passes away.
    I personally believe that he passed away jn June already.
    There was indeed some media about his passing in June 2013, however, this news was immediately and completely deleted from any records, and his death will most definitely draw attention away from the e-toll debacle.
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    hmmm....interesting, who would have thought?

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    It may be the catalyst required to break the ANC down. Many voters would place their cross on the ANC, because of the belief of Nelson as the liberator, but now with him gone, they will surely rethink their strategy based on all the scandals about service delivery, bribery, corruption and nKantla.
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    So when will the Nkandla report be released...next week...2020?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justloadit View Post
    Many voters would place their cross on the ANC.
    I would also like to place a cross on the ANC

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    In what way has Mandela affected your life, it would interesting to hear both positive and if any negative responses.
    Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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    Likewise, in what way has FW De Klerk affected your life. I clearly remeber two men walking together, not just one. Interesting how history forgets the one and not the other.

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    .....did write something but decided to remove it.

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    Nelson Mandela was a man with many faces.

    In 1963 he was charged with 193 counts of terrorism: for sabotage and for trying to smuggle, prepare, or manufacture (mostly Soviet-bloc) munitions, including: 210,000 hand-grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 144 tons of ammonium- nitrate, 21.6 tons of aluminum powder, and 1,500 timing devices.

    While he was in prison he carried on with his political struggle.
    When he came out of prison this is the face he wore for the international public.
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...nelson-mandela

    But when he was with his own people he was a totally different person.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOXqFQw2hc

    When Mandela became president the ANC changed the laws of the country making it more difficult to catch & prosecute criminals.

    In June they were already preparing for his death.
    http://mg.co.za/article/2013-06-25-v...mily-gravesite

    On Nelson Mandela's birthday 18 July 2013 I only saw post picture of Nelson Mandela.
    I have searched & asked on other forums for any proof that Mandela was still alive on 18th July 2013 & haven't been able to find any yet. ( I'm not saying he was dead, I am saying that I can't find any proof that he was alive)


    One thing I do know is that if Mandela was announced dead before his birthday, his children would have lost a fortune which they had invested in his birthday.

    Now what I find a bit suspicious is that before the media was informed that Nelson Mandela was dead, all the attention was on Jacob Zuma & the etoll system.

    There was a lot of pressure on the Anc government they out of the blue you get this announcement that Nelson Mandela has passed away.

    The timing of his death seem to be a bit suspicious to me.

    The big question is why did they create this diversion at this specific time & what is not only Jacob Zuma the whole Anc party planing?

    The second question is will the Anc stoop so low as to postpone the announcement of his death to a time that would advantageous to them?

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    Nelson Mandela was a terrorist that turned into a peace maker. He has changed many of his original ways and has turned a socialist/communist organisation into a more moderate socialist/capitalist one. Maybe he was not a great statesman, but he was a great leader. He could admit when he was wrong and he could embrace change. He could also turn former enemies into allies or friends.

    For that he has earned our respect. We need more peacemakers in this world.

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