Anyone like cars?

[league_of_ordinary_men]

So I had an interesting conversation with a friend who loves cars as much as me.What we talked about was the fact that you sometimes look at the car someone drives and you can get a sense of the guy's or woman's salary even if the bank owns it .But we were talking about some people like classic cars as well as modern cars but if some people see an old classic car they think poor guy he must not be doing so good,haha.But like me being a car fan I appreciate classics as well as a new car, so if I see the guy drive up with a old classic I can look at it and think that's a beautiful car were as some people will think wow can't this guy get something better.So whats your thoughts about seeing someone driving an old classic as a daily driver especially from a business perspective,you know if you have to meet someone for a meeting and they roll up in class,do you think in a sense that there not doing as well as someone in a brand new car?And I'm not talking about a fixer up here an talking about a real classic.

[adrianh]

I couldn't care less...a car is just that, a car. Money does not define a person. My brother is a self made multi-millionaire and he drives a piece of crap 20 year old Merc, his ex boss is a billionaire (yes, he really is) and he drives a piece of crap 15 year old Audi 500.

The person who judges another person by the car they drive is an idiot and the person who thinks that others judge them by the car that they drive is also an idiot.....

...seems there are many idiots driving expensive cars to impress other idiots....

New cars are the single biggest waste of money on this planet - will you spend R1Mil on a house that is worth R500k the following day - I think not, so why in the hell do people spend it on cars...because they think that other people care....that is the only reason....

A new car is nothing more than a new handbag, it makes a a person feel as if they have attained something and have something to show the world....My view is simple F the world, who cares what they think...a confident woman doesn't need a new fake handbag to feel good about herself and a confident man doesn't new a new BM kitted with bells, whistles and yoyo's to feel good about himself.

Like I said, you have money or you don't, if you can't afford to pay for your expensive toys in cash then you don't...then you are just a wannabe!

[Citizen X]

I love luxury sedans, just can't afford them!!!

[ians]

I think you hit the nail on the head, with a degree you separate the hard working fools from the smart people, unfortunately I fall into the uneducated fool category. If I hadn't wasted all that time in my life working like a dog, and educated myself instead. I would be very smart rich man today, instead after 22 years in business I still count the pennies I make instead managing my wealth.

Let this be a lesson for all you youngsters out there, education is the key to success.(cash is king but without being educated on what to do with it chances are you gona waste it) If you want to work hard all your life become an artisan, if you want to enjoy the riches of life, get educated with a degree.

I still believe that if I go back and finish my studies or at least study to become a businessman or how to manage my money, I could change my future. I have tons of experience just not the certificate on the wall.

Like Adrian, I work like a dog, call them hobbies or what ever you want, you still have to work to make a living. Smart people make other people work to get rich, by making that statement we open a whole new thread (what is rich?)

[adrianh]

I think you hit the nail on the head, with a degree you separate the hard working fools from the smart people, unfortunately I fall into the uneducated fool category. If I hadn't wasted all that time in my life working like a dog, and educated myself instead. I would be very smart rich man today, instead after 22 years in business I still count the pennies I make instead managing my wealth.

Let this be a lesson for all you youngsters out there, education is the key to success.(cash is king but without being educated on what to do with it chances are you gona waste it) If you want to work hard all your life become an artisan, if you want to enjoy the riches of life, get educated with a degree.

I still believe that if I go back and finish my studies or at least study to become a businessman or how to manage my money, I could change my future. I have tons of experience just not the certificate on the wall.

Like Adrian, I work like a dog, call them hobbies or what ever you want, you still have to work to make a living. Smart people make other people work to get rich, by making that statement we open a whole new thread (what is rich?)

I dunno, some people have the Midas touch. We were talking last night and he said that he has already made more money this year than he ever made in any year before (no stress, just doing his own thing in his own way)

The rest of us will simply go through life muddling along. I agree, we, the stupid ones work our a$$es off whilst the clever ones leverage other people. The problem is that many of us simply do not have the mental capability to manage large organizations. The idea of "if you can dream it you can do it" is simply rubbish. We went to a house concert on Thursday evening and spent the evening with Terra Naomi. No matter what I do, I will never ever play guitar like her or sing like her because I am rather tone deaf. I cannot remember simple things so I will never ever manage a large business. The point that I am trying to make is that we all have our place in the universe and some happen to be good at making money. Each of us are different and good at different things, I think the trick is to accept one's limitations and live a satisfying life in spite of what those limitations might be.

[ians]

Adrian funny you should say that, 2 of the richest people I know both drive old mercs they purchased before I was born and pay cash for everthing. Maybe that is the secrect to success not wasting money on HP for vehicles.

Personally I drive a practical vehicle, for me it is a Caddy van, for the simple reason it is totally closed in the back and it has side doors so you can access tools etc from the side, unlike a bakkie which is easy to break into and you have to climb into the vehicle and scratch for things.

I have just purchased a bus for many reasons, it will make my life easier and save money, before the bus we always had to do things with 2 vehicles, now we do everything with 1 vehicle, from towing the boat to just spending the day on the beach you name it.

It I didn't need a vehicle for work, if I worked in an office I would be riding a motor bike to work everyday.

My toy would be a Yamaha R1 in blue with gold and polished rims a turbo charger and nos kit attached and a single pipe, don't like the sound of the double pipes, my old screamer (wild thing) sounded so much better with a split single pipe on the side. Clocking 300 + helps you forget any silly things which where bothering you and rolling open the throttle releases the tension as you go the only reason I don't ride a bike anymore is because I am too selfish would be on the bike more than with my family and I cant ride one like a civilised person

If I could afford a car, this would be the car I would be driving in this colour http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/exotic-c...i-veyron-photo

[adrianh]

Look, I really love cars, but not the wannabe cars.

My absolute favourite is the Pagani Huayra

http://www.pagani.com/huayra/default.aspx

What makes this car special is that Horacio Pagani is an artist, he is a visionary who is able to fuse art and engineering. Each and every part is crafted not only for engineering excellence but also for aesthetics. The Huayra is not a car, it is a Leonardo Da Vinci masterpiece.

A close second is Aston Martin - Aston's are also works of art, an Aston Martin is like an confident elegant lady in an evening dress, it's not in your face but you know that it is pure class.

The run of the mill brands simply cannot match these cars because they are soulless, they are designed by teams of engineers who design to profit from the masses - there is simply no art in them. BMW, Merc, Jag, etc have all become the same, they are like Ipods, each year you toss it out and get another one.

The 20th century brought plastics and mass production but at what cost....the cost is that of craftsmanship and artistry, I don't want a R700K Merc that is kitted like the space shuttle, I want a car that has a soul. Give me a '68 Mustang, a '70s Stingray, what about a Camaro SS, a Streetrod or even a Ratrod. Nah, I'll rather have a 40 year old big block V8 with a blower, a limited slip diff, straight pipes and no electric windows...

[tec0]

I like older cars not supper old or classic cars just nice old cars like 3 door VW GTI original or little Tarzan Mazda stuff like that. I like a car that is a bit "weathered".

[ians]

Dave you want to know something really scary, when I purchased the house I live in, there was an MG the one that looks like and e type jag with the long bonnet parked in one of the garages, was auctioned off for around R20 000, still had the black leather seats and everything else original, chrome bumpers the works. A person contacted me a couple months after I purchased the house and told me he had offered the previous owner R250 000 for the car.

One of my customers has just imported a left hand drive old mustang from the USA, cleaned it up a bit and now it is apparently worth R650 k, makes you think buying old cars and restoring them could be a good business venture.

Another customer is sourcing and fixing up old V8 bakkies, making a small fortune selling them.

[tec0]

Dave you want to know something really scary, when I purchased the house I live in, there was an MG the one that looks like and e type jag with the long bonnet parked in one of the garages, was auctioned off for around R20 000, still had the black leather seats and everything else original, chrome bumpers the works. A person contacted me a couple months after I purchased the house and told me he had offered the previous owner R250 000 for the car.

One of my customers has just imported a left hand drive old mustang from the USA, cleaned it up a bit and now it is apparently worth R650 k, makes you think buying old cars and restoring them could be a good business venture.

Another customer is sourcing and fixing up old V8 bakkies, making a small fortune selling them.

My uncle does exactly that and he is doing well rebuilding old V8 monsters. I remember when we where younger we would get into that old ford granada with a chevy v8 big block engine 4 speed auto "only thing that could handle that kind of power" and just drove. There is nothing like that engine running on the open road.

I loved it... See for us it wasn't about the destination... It is about getting behind the wheel.