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    Question Electrical Fence certificates

    Has anyone here applied for registration, albeit temporary at the moment, to issue electrical fence certificates.
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    That is just it. Temporary. How can one be registered when there are no standards/requirements yet? The criteria has not been set yet. Register where? DOL? Yeah right! The existing/non-existing system does not even work. Take a look at some posts regarding DOL and registering contractors, which has been going on for years @ ECB, until now that is.

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    Is an electrical fence the right perimeter security solution? I have seen so many places with electric fences that are now inoperative. What are the alternatives?
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    OHS 3/1/6/7/11

    OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY ACT, 1993
    (as amended)
    REGISTRATION AS AN ELECTRIC FENCE SYSTEM INSTALLER

    REGISTRATION CRITERIA

    INTRODUCTION

    This document outlines the temporary registration criteria that a person must comply with in order to be registered by the Chief Inspector as an Electric Fence System Installer as defined in the Electrical Machinery Regulations, 2012, promulgated by Government Notice R.250 of 25 March 2011.

    REQUIREMENTS FOR REGISTRATION

    The applicant shall submit the following documents to the Chief Inspector to be considered for registration:

    • Completed application form (annexure 2);

    • Proof of experience on electric fence systems (letters from employers and letter of recommendation from the South African Electric Fence Installers Association or the South African Intruder Detection Services Association);

    • Proof of working knowledge of the legislation and relevant health and safety standards applicable to electric fence systems (letter of recommendation from the South African Electric Fence Installers Association or the South African Intruder Detection Services Association);

    • Copy of applicant’s South African identification document;

    • Two photo’s (25 mm x 30 mm) colour or black & white;

    • Receipt of R120-00 payable at any Labour Centre or bank

    o Account holder:​Department of Labour
    o Bank: ​First National Bank
    o Account number:​62025135577
    o Branch code:​253145
    o Reference: ​OHS: EMR – (your surname and initials).

    Note: All copies to be certified

    GENERAL INFORMATION

    The final criteria will be available soon.

    This temporary registration issued under this requirement will be valid till the 30th of September 2013.

    The Department of Labour has inspectors in all provinces that will always be available to assist with the application or log on to www.labour.gov.za for the latest information and application forms.

    The following organisations may be contacted at:

    Department of Labour​Tel. no.: (012) 309 4000/4378

    South African Electric Fence Installers Association
    ​E-mail address: info@saefia.com
    ​Fax to E-Mail 086 527 0374
    ​Fax number: 0866 499 588
    www.saefia.net

    South African Intruder Detection Services Association
    ​E-mail address: saidsa@mweb.co.za
    ​Tel number: 011 845 4870
    ​Fax number: 011 845 4850
    www.saidsa.co.za


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    Registration as an Electric Fence System Installer
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    Annexure 2

    OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY ACT, 1993 (ACT NO. 85 OF 1993)
    REGULATION 14(1) OF THE ELECTRICAL MACHINERY REGULATIONS

    APPLICATION FOR REGISTRATION AS AN ELECTRIC FENCE SYSTEM INSTALLER


    The Department of Labour
    Occupational Health and Safety
    Private Bag X117
    Pretoria
    0001

    R120,00




    Surname (block letters): ……………………………………………………………..
    First names (block letters): …………………………………………………………
    Postal address: ……………………..………………………………………………..
    Code: ……………
    Telephone Nos.: (W) ..……………………………. (H) ……………………..………
    (Fax) …………………………… (Cell) …….……………………
    Date of birth: ……………………… Place of birth: ……………………..………….
    Identity number (immigration permit number): .……………………………………
    A certified copy of electric fence system installer proficiency must be attached.

    Two clear identical unmounted photographs of 40 mm by 30 mm showing the face and shoulders of the applicant to be submitted. One photograph to be certified on the back as follows:

    I certify this to be a true photograph of……………………………………………


    ……………………………………..​………………………
    Signature of Magistrate, Justice of the ​Date
    Peace or Commissioner of Oaths

    I hereby declare that the above particulars are, to the best of my knowledge and belief, correct.


    Signature of applicant: ……………………………​Date: ………………………

    SPECIMEN SIGNATURE OF APPLICANT
    Note  The specimen signatures should be the normal signature of the applicant and should be carefully completed. One specimen will be affixed to any certificate of registration that may be issued.

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    Does any one have experience of the Roboguard system and is it any good?

    http://www.roboguard.org.za/contact.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    Is an electrical fence the right perimeter security solution? I have seen so many places with electric fences that are now inoperative. What are the alternatives?
    Spot on, most domestic fences are eithe faulty or switched off. Come time to sell and they need a COC they are quick to tell you it has not worked for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    Does any one have experience of the Roboguard system and is it any good?

    http://www.roboguard.org.za/contact.html
    These devices work well, we have them on various sites, they are great for when you are home, the main station has lights so it indicates which beam has been activated. I have a request from a customer to link them up to the alarm system, but most alarm comapanies will not link them or tell you they cant be linked. I believe it is bollocks, but will only comment once i have had a chance to try myself.

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    I havent commneted on this thread yet because they cant even ge tthe registration right, how on earth are they gona make more rules and regulations. Has anyone told them that with the gravy comes some work and a person with a little knowledge of a telephone and a computer. The funny part is not the DOL, it all the other idiots who actually register and keep them in bussiness, we should boycot them and nobody should register, if they cant even get the registration right how would they ever get around to taking all the contractors to court for none compliance.

    We should all register with the ECB, so that we are registered at least, then let them take everyone to court for not registering with the DOL.

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    Some time has passed and I now believe the registration process in is full swing.
    The problem is that i cannot find any useful information as to the content of the registration process.
    Any help out there?
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    It is all a load of bull, you just need a certified letter to say that you have either 2 or 3 years experience installing them. Send that in with the forms above. No exam, no certificate, no accreditation, in fact, the guy who was drilling holes in the wall for the brackets can apply for it!

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