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    Let's give the government more money

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    Henk Bolhuis [Ex-Deputy Chief Traffic Officer of Pretoria]

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    I think, and I am sure that many of you are the same, that the tolls are a disgrace, both the extortionate toll fees themselves and also the widely published fact that we are expected to pay up to R18 BILLION over the next 10 years just to collect the toll fees.
    I wanted to share the clarity of thought in this mail and agree that I will not be installing anything on my car.
    They are not going to have easy access to my bank account, they say they want a debit order - forget it.
    Send me a bill (by registered mail) every time - and I will pay it just as fast as I pay the speeding fines that arrive by normal post (which I also ignore).
    Together we can make this whole thing fail - as it should.
    Let the toll gates stay there, not working, as monuments to people power.
    Let's call this the start of the SA Awakening, look what the normal people are achieving in North Africa with the Arab Awakening.
    I hope this goes around at least a billion times.

    Taxes and Open Road Toll Fees
    People should not install the transponders but still use the highways and force the government to issue accounts and summonses to all
    motorists until such time they drop the prices.
    The government will be forced to send out millions of accounts every month and they don't have the manpower to do it.
    This is the best and easiest way to boycott the system.
    What is the government going to do about motorists from other neighbouring
    countries that don't have these transponders?
    South Africans are too complacent and its time we fight back.
    WE have paid for these roads.
    Now they are also proposing a 1% tax to fund the SABC
    Circulate this to all your friends!!!!!!!!

    Has anyone thought just how much tax we are already paying?
    a. 35% on your salary
    b. 14% on everything you buy (bar fresh produce) and services rendered.
    c. Carbon tax if you buy a new car (besides the 14% VAT you have to pay)
    d. Tax on the fuel you put in your car to run it.
    e. Toll on our roads – and for some it is going to come to a whopper of 10% of your salary (If you earn R10 000.00 a R1 000 would go toward tolling if you migrate between PTA and JHB every day.)
    Bully to try and pacify me with the idea that I can claim it back from my income tax!!!
    I have to fork out the money first. Going on holiday to DBN? Remember to save up your R1000.00 for tolling.
    To say the least - For every R10.00 you earn, the government is already taking approx R6.00 and still they want more. Are you happy with the R4.00 you are getting?
    NICE!!!!!
    When are we going to get up and do something about it? Where is all the money going to?
    It is definitely not being spent on what it should be - our hospitals are in a state of disrepair, our schools in shambles, our roads full of potholes, our water contaminated, sewers not working, left in the dark because Eskom failed to do their upgrades, the poor are poorer still, municipalities on the brink of collapse, and so the list goes on.
    Heard about the youth day celebration that cost R100 million?
    Mmmm... did you pay for it?
    Oh yes sir/madam you did! R100 million that could have paid for a couple of things our country needed more.

    And to put the numbers in perspective:
    The next time you hear an SA politician use the word 'billion'in a casual manner, think about whether you wanted the 'politicians' spending YOUR tax money.
    A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its press releases:
    A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.
    B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
    C. A billion Rand ago was only 27 hours and 12 minutes at the rate our SA government is squandering it
    (over a billion rand a day??!!)
    Building Permit Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporation Tax
    Income Tax
    Value Added Tax
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel License Tax
    Petrol/Diesel Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Luxury Tax
    Property Tax
    Service charge taxes
    Capital gains Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Securities Transfer Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Local Tax
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Worker's Compensation Tax
    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
    Hardly any of these taxes existed 20 years ago...
    And our nation was one of the most prosperous in Africa.
    We had absolutely no national debt...
    We had the largest middle class in Africa and Mum stayed home to raise the kids.
    What happened ?
    ANSWER :
    Look at the Government.....and who is 'running' the country....
    INTO THE GROUND - on YOUR and MY 'billions'!!!
    We hope this goes around at least a billion times.
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    You are totally absoltely and absurdedly right. We used to be the powerhouse of Africa. Now look at where we are. There is no middle class left. When the politicians talk casuals about billions they usually get confused between what they are saying and their bank balances. The problem is that they have to create more taxation laws to create more revenue and more laws to keep you from finding out what they have done with everything And cover their tracks (secrecy bill which is just the start). We do need to actively start saying 'No' and not by not using the highways - that will put a huge strain on us. We paid for the highway. Just be smart and stick together! You have my vote and my co-operation

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    Let's try to get this thing viral...

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    That is not only happened in South Africa.
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    and would you honestly feel bad if you could some how just get to keep another R2.

    they can only pick off the tree until it bears no more fruit...then someone will have to step in and susidies their expenditure...

    i hear they are already looking into big infrastucture improvements...wher ewill the money come from?...looks like we are gona have a much bigger chinese presence in this country.

    look at bbeee...and packages...they offer skilled people packages to move out of their positions...with the amount of people in this country...surely they should have be offering a lot more positions to everyone and employing more people and begging already skilled people...more money to actually stay and not get rid of them.

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    Let's call this the start of the SA Awakening
    Yes!

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    If everyone use the roads and no-one pays, what can SANRAL do?

    My gripe is that ALL the money collected will go to; 1. Dividends to foreign shareholders. 2. Salaries of officials.
    3. Debt collection. 4. Wages of staff. 5. maintenance of cameras.

    LITTLE or NONE will go into maintenance and improvement of the roads, which is the purpose of tolling. This whole scheme is a money making exercise which was done covertly and intended to benefit the fat cats. The government has much to explain to the public with regards to this fiasco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurock View Post
    If everyone use the roads and no-one pays, what can SANRAL do?

    My gripe is that ALL the money collected will go to; 1. Dividends to foreign shareholders. 2. Salaries of officials.
    3. Debt collection. 4. Wages of staff. 5. maintenance of cameras.

    LITTLE or NONE will go into maintenance and improvement of the roads, which is the purpose of tolling. This whole scheme is a money making exercise which was done covertly and intended to benefit the fat cats. The government has much to explain to the public with regards to this fiasco.
    You left out where the bulk of the money will be going:
    6. Bank account of ANC Government official(s) 7. Dividends to Cosatu pension fund that just happened to have invested many millions in the toll roads.

    THAT is why they cannot AFFORD to let it fail!

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