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    Criminal records

    Is it possible to establish a fraud conviction dating back to 1995. If "yes" ...How?

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    I don't understand your question, are you trying to pursue someone for fraudulent activities in 1995 to get a conviction or are you trying to do a background check on someone?
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    A background check!

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    Yes .... a criminal record stays on your record. Some companies if you request a criminal check will only give you convictions, some will give you full history ie if a charge was ever laid against you. This sometimes is unfair for a person who might be applying for a job and has a history of a charge that might have been false. If you are still interested in getting further information about someone you can inbox me. There are fees involved and in most cases you should get a persons permission.

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    The security industry has to do checks to make sure their staff don't have criminal records - I wonder where they go? The SAP perhaps?
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    What does the LAW say? Surely a criminal record, where the person was actually found guilty in a court of law, should be public knowledge? I would imagine that every citizen has the right to know whether or not their neighbour/employee/nanny/etc is a convicted murderer or rapist or thief or whatever.

    Why do you need their permission, Kevin? Is the general public not allowed to enquire about another person's criminal record?

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    A random woman can walk into any police station and file a case of rape against a random male. That male is automatically "guilty" until proven innocent. Pathetic. Imagine the police arriving at your workplace informing you a charge of rape has been filed against you & you need to come with them.

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    Yes it is pathetic ............ now can you imagine if you do a full criminal check on someone that has just applied for a job and you come up against a rape charge on his record, and it is actually a wife that is really pissed off with her husband !!.
    If you do a check on someone it shows them you have checked on them, therefore you would have to have good reason to check on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_ZA View Post
    A random woman can walk into any police station and file a case of rape against a random male. That male is automatically "guilty" until proven innocent. Pathetic. Imagine the police arriving at your workplace informing you a charge of rape has been filed against you & you need to come with them.
    Not guilty yet, but I think you realise that based on the quote marks. He will however go through a very unpleasant experience. Of course without some form of probable evidence, the female does run the risk of being charged with perjury and wasting police time if it turns out her case is a lie, as well as the risk of a civil claim for damages.

    The moment a situation arises where someone does get raped or feels the need to falsely accuse another of rape, then its going to get ugly either way. It is unfortunate, but the police do have to take the matter seriously. Can you imagine the situation where someone close to you is in fact raped, but the police don't want to make the arrest?

    Its a tough one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mother View Post
    What does the LAW say? Surely a criminal record, where the person was actually found guilty in a court of law, should be public knowledge? I would imagine that every citizen has the right to know whether or not their neighbour/employee/nanny/etc is a convicted murderer or rapist or thief or whatever.

    Why do you need their permission, Kevin? Is the general public not allowed to enquire about another person's criminal record?
    Not sure of the actual legal answer, but I would imagine that no you are not entitled to enquire. The logic being that someone with a criminal record who is out of prison has served their time and done the punishment. They should now be allowed to get on with their lives afresh. Examples of exceptions being where you want to employ someone and previous cases of fraud might indicate their lack of trustworthiness and the sex offender list that the US has

    If however they just want to get on with their lives and turn over a new leaf, that should possibly be able to do so.

    I'm not necessarily in full agreement with the above, but I would imagine that would be the political view on the matter.

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